View Full Version : official Blender 64bit soon...
...do a 2.44 in a relative short timeframe, like 2
months (end of april).
...
Possible projects for 2.44:
- make blender 64 bits safe (Ton)
- image browser (Andrea)
- adding composite nodes (Bob)
- vertex array drawing for derivedmesh (Joe)
- ffmpg cleanup, and integration for release in osx and windows
- baking: object-to-object ray normal baking (baking hires object into
lowres)
- pynode (Nathan)
...
-Ton-
So maybe we could finally see a 64bit blender that will address more than 2GB of RAM for those memory hungry fluids and nodes :cool:
that's good news
especially the 64bit part and the pynodes IMO :D
The operative word being 'possible.'
knellotron
16-Mar-07, 22:47
Great! I'm sorry to say that I'll be running the "YESIAMSTUPID" edition of Blender in the meantime.
Great! I'm sorry to say that I'll be running the "YESIAMSTUPID" edition of Blender in the meantime.
yes! another reason why blender is more fun to use than commercial products.
to everyone else: yes ton said 'possible', but when has the devs ever let us down? :eyebrowlift2:
I am also running in YESIAMSTUPID mode! ( I think Ton got a bit nervous that time...) Actually I find it is perfectly usable already, just when you happen to open a 64bit-saved file in a 32bit blender, you get a couple of fancy things, but until now I could fix them all easily (save the file again under a new name, etc...)
I am also running in YESIAMSTUPID mode! ( I think Ton got a bit nervous that time...)
Chris Want (Hos) did that, not Ton. Ton just completely disabled 64bit, Chris added the YESIAMSTUPID option to use it himself.
Martin
paroneayea
18-Mar-07, 22:21
Woot! I certainly hope so... I just got a shiny new amd64 computer, and I can't wait to use its maximum potential as I drive my computer crazy with sculpt mode and fluid simulations :)
IamInnocent
18-Mar-07, 22:40
yes! another reason why blender is more fun to use than commercial products.
to everyone else: yes ton said 'possible', but when has the devs ever let us down? :eyebrowlift2:
From time to time they have, in some ways: he-mesh, Nurbana, Pytextures... The only thing that that prooves is their humanity, something to remember when comes the time for praise, comments or, (eeek!...) addictive requests.
Jean
Well, from time to time they don't make it, but to touch on a couple of points by IamInnocent
Nurbana was almost done. Emmanuel is still hanging around, ready to help whoever wants to finish the integration, he can't do it himself, is all, because real life hauled him off.
He-mesh and the blender mesh system are being replaced by Briggs by the bmesh n-gon-tools rewrite.
JA-forreal
19-Mar-07, 00:47
It looks like we won't see a BF 64 bit version in the immediate future. We can hold off on getting those quad core cpu systems with 8 gigs of memory.:evilgrin:
IamInnocent
19-Mar-07, 00:58
Nurbana was almost done. Emmanuel is still hanging around, ready to help whoever wants to finish the integration, he can't do it himself, is all, because real life hauled him off.
He-mesh and the blender mesh system are being replaced by Briggs by the bmesh n-gon-tools rewrite.
That wasn't my point: they still may fail and they still may meet greater success that ever expected. There's likely many thing to come out of the blue that will surprise us and others that we fully expect that won't happen. A project like Blender is a human adventure to a level like no regular business can be. That is my point.
Jean
Jeremy Ray
19-Mar-07, 03:25
Where can I get a 64 bit Blender for Ubuntu?
No point it getting defensive, I wasn't affirming or denying the validity of what your point was. I was just letting everyone know that those two particular projects weren't quite dead.
knellotron
19-Mar-07, 22:40
Where can I get a 64 bit Blender for Ubuntu?
I'm on 64 bit Feisty Fawn, and I just "apt-get install blender" to get 2.43. 2.42a is in Dapper. They're in the universe repostories.
However, these are the "YESIAMSTUPID" versions, because 64 bit versions aren't "safe" yet. They really should make this warning clear in the package description, because many users won't notice the warning message if they don't launch it from a console.
Unimatrix
20-Mar-07, 02:21
Wasn't the ALPHA version from ages ago 64-Bit?
bob_holcomb
20-Mar-07, 03:37
yes it was, but since then there has been code added that was not 64-bit safe (so I'm told).
Cheers,
Bob
Also, IIRC, library linking was never safe between 64 and 32 bits files (this wasn't an issue at the time since the work environment at NeoGeo was, I assume much more homogeneous than the current mix of platform and architecture).
Martin
Jeremy Ray
20-Mar-07, 04:53
I'm on 64 bit Feisty Fawn, and I just "apt-get install blender" to get 2.43. 2.42a is in Dapper. They're in the universe repostories.
However, these are the "YESIAMSTUPID" versions, because 64 bit versions aren't "safe" yet. They really should make this warning clear in the package description, because many users won't notice the warning message if they don't launch it from a console.
Somebody clue me in on what the "YESIAMSTUPID" version is - still 32 bit?
knellotron
20-Mar-07, 12:43
Somebody clue me in on what the "YESIAMSTUPID" version is - still 32 bit?
No, those are 64 bit. from my ubuntu docs...
blender (2.43-1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
* As of 2.43, one needs to use a ``YESIAMSTUPID'' macro in
source/creator/creator.c to be able to compile Blender on a 64-bit system.
This matter has not been advertised, but it mainly resides in the fact
that Blender is not 64-bit safe, in particular with respect to saved and
loaded files, especially when that happens between 32-bit and 64-bit
systems. Attention was paid to 64-bit systems, efforts were made, but not
enough to get a releasable version on those systems.
* So, be aware that there might be issues with files manipulated on 64-bit
systems, although everything could be or look fine. The file format might
also change in further releases to make it 64-bit safe, which might lead
to incompatibilities with the files saved with the current 64-bit builds.
* The lead developer also promised (on #blendercoders/Freenode):
``We won't do another release without 64 bits blender!''
This problem is a priority, and it will be addressed in CVS as soon as
possible. Hopefully in some months, a 64-bit Blender will be released.
* Related code modifications are stored in Blender debianized sources, in
debian/patches/01_64bits_stupidity.dpatch.
-- Cyril Brulebois <cyril.brulebois@enst-bretagne.fr> Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:37:27 +0100
Somebody clue me in on what the "YESIAMSTUPID" version is - still 32 bit?
YESIAMSTUPID version means a 64 bit versions compiled with disabled 64 bit check-close (that is, without the YESIAMSTUPID option, running a 64 bit version of Blender just outputs an error and closes).
Martin
YESIAMSTUPID is a 64bit version that could potentially cause a lot of trouble for the end-user, because i'ts not stable yet. hence user who use it are deemed 'stupid.' :D
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