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It would be really wonderful if we could get translations of the tooltips, especially Indian, African and Arabic languages - also help translating the manual is greatly desired - are there any who are fluent in those languages interested in helping?

You can help either through the Rosetta project of Ubuntu - or you can work independently on the tooltips

https://launchpad.net/rosetta
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu.../+pots/blender


For the Manual all you need to do is register an account, email me ( LetterRip AT gmail doot com ) your wiki account name and I can give you edit permissions.

Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

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Er... I never heard of anybody speaking 'African'. There has to be about a thousand languages out there : only in South Africa there are eleven official languages, if I am not mstaking. The best you can hope is that they also will speak english or french (I wonder if there are still some speaking Portuguese...)

Are the tooltips translated to Chineese ?

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There is a seperate Chinese website - they are doing their own translations and such since reaching US websites is challenging.

There are 11 official languages in India, as well - I should have been more specific but it would be nice to have Blender translated to any (many) of the native languages of those countries.

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You know I like it that more persons can understand Blender in their own language but I don't know that we not getting ahead of ourselves yet.
Seems to me there is much to be done to get basic admin sorted.
I think maybe we get Elysiun reworked and internal tutorial capability and wiki complete in English before get over extended with bits here and there. This is general problem at the moment - lots happenning in all directions. I know it looks like I want to hold back Blender but I think it needs to get co-ordinated. You see for example a few kind persons want to make Blender magazines and we end up having several that come and go. Lot of duplicate effort in semi isolation.Also I note looking quickly that top 10 languages on internet cover 80% of all users. If you have organised publishing arm of Blender base work can be done in English and then co-ordinated distribution of info take place to translators or to oversees branches. They oversee RSS feeds and stuff too.
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by the way in india they have around 26 languages and around 250 dialects
according to my room mate who is imported from india.

english is an offical language as hindi. quite often english is also the first language they learn or which is tought in school, so i would suggest that english will not be a problem for indian people.


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rubbleman,

I understand what you are saying, however, it generally is not the case that 'one or the other'. Increasing the number of translators for instance will likely increase the speed of the English part of the manual being finished. If we recruit more translators - there is a very good chance the individual might have been doing very little in the way of contributing to Blender previously.

Growing the user base of Blender should greatly increase the number of people available to work on all parts of Blender both coding wise and administrative wise, and the easiest way to grow the user base is localization and internationalization work.

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ok sorry I am tidy person so I like well organised.
I just like to see umbrella for operation. Now is good time to put up I think.
Before you know Blender gets very big confused and hard to manage well without gross redo. In my mind better look ahead and put in place framework now for expansion. If you attract many persons to work on all aspects of Blender how you going to keep track of everyone and make best use of?
Already you say things a bit shambles. What if 2x persons happening? You going to be very busy 'over involved' going here and there to try to point in right direction :|
I mean well but maybe I just keep quiet from now on and let you do. I only newbie here and not invovled in things - and at my age shouldn't be anyway
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by the way in india they have around 26 languages and around 250 dialects
according to my room mate who is imported from india.

english is an offical language as hindi. quite often english is also the first language they learn or which is tought in school, so i would suggest that english will not be a problem for indian people.


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India has round about 46-48 different languages or their variations if you may, 18 are recognised officially and no english is _not_ an official language but it is used secondary to hindi anyway, even for official purposes at times. Interestingly about only 5-6% of Indians can actualy read or write english, not surpsisingly those are from urban populace.

Hindi is spoken and read almost all over india appromixately about 60-70% of population. But in major cases the regional languages dominate every where.

I would correct you here, we are taught first 'Hindi' officially and much before that we learn our own regional languages. English is also introduced in some schools at begginer levels.

All in all we *_need_* language localisation to mostly, Hindi, Tamil, Telgu, Malyam, Gujrati, Oriya, Punjabi and probably more.

I remember that I had asked a long a back about how to do this type of stuff(localisation), I used to have time then and had read a lot about Indian fonts and such. But I will again look into it. Only a thing though we dont really have Linux fully ported to any of the Indian Langauages yet, but there is lots of hard work going on here. May be I will get some help from Indian Linux project on this.

Windows supports UTF-8 so It think it will work cross platefrom as well.
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varuag,

that would be superb if you could. It looks like Rosetta is the easiest way to go as far as localization of tooltips and such. I don't know if Ubuntu does manual localization as well.

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hi varuag

hey thats funny because all indians i talked to here in BG told me the same,
well all are international students and come from a different social layer.

everybody i was talking to told me that they learn english first because of the british occupitation...
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with your sig, I have no idea why you might have difficulty meeting women

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My experience with African languages (I only really know Afrikaans and a smattering of Xhosa) is that, aside from technical books, they all use the English words anyway, just with an accent. A car is a kar (moto in Xhosa), a piston is a pistun, a sparkplug is a plug and a computer is a komputer.

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And a Ubuntu is Human being, don't sound very english to me.
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hi varuag
hey thats funny because all indians i talked to here in BG told me the same,
well all are international students and come from a different social layer.

everybody i was talking to told me that they learn English first because of the British occupitation...
I dont see anything funny there but I can laugh with you. Reaching an education institution dosent guarantee that you(not you) are an 'educated' person, may be the system understands you to be qualified enough.

There is more to it than simply affluence of occupation, its a mindset thats involved that was woven by Brits, thanks to the education factories(read schools) they established to produce well oiled _brown English speaking_ Sahibs. No wonder we have technological coolies in this day too (outsourcing). But how we came here is another story.

Fact is its only richer or upper middle class, speaks or understands it, they all use English by default in computers. Yeah we too have lots of English words Indianised, but I cant really call that English. There is more to Indic languages than appears. If you get out of Metros, we have 60-65% of population living in villages and small towns and cities. Most of them have electricity and a education system and No! It is not English medium, they still do their Maths in Hindi or may be in their regional languages.


Fligh % any country taking new age western developments, ideas or scientific notions, will spell them as they were originally developed especially if it as an idea, or notion that never existed in their particular country. I am sure there will be more to their respective languages than just English words with ascent.
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hey varuag and flight, where are you guys from?

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I'm from Virginia in the US, but I spent about 12 years in Africa.

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Hi, LetterRip. We have set up a website(http://bbs.blendercn.org) and forum( http://bbs.blendercn.org, where we organize the Chinese thansaltion work and many other i10n case. I have checked https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu..._CN/+translate, the translation is far from completeness, accurateness than ours.
Did ubuntu get the blender.po file with some python scripts? If so, we do the same and I am the author of these python scripts :P
Thus I suggest to redirect https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu..._CN/+translate to our http://bbs.blendercn.org/viewtopic.php?p=274#274.
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oops i may have misunderstood hold on...

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