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ManDingo
14-Nov-08, 01:40
I believe the Roman Empire never fell, it just adapted. 1600 years ago, the Western Roman Empire got invaded by Barbarians: i.e the Lombards, the Franks etc. These Barbarians were allowed to become Kings who bowed down to the Pope.

Why is the Pope important, because there's something more important than this world. That's why the dark ages were so important: to keep your soul pure, so you can get to the next level.:evilgrin:

The Western Roman Empire was allowed to crumble because it was now united under a common faith. So it was now an Empire of the faith, you don't need to keep expensive Legions when you the Kings bowing at your feet. :evilgrin:

Even now, it's Western Europe that rules the world. Nothing has changed.

So the basic pyramid looks like this: The Pope at the top, then the kings of Europe, followed by the Merchant class, or what we call today- the Jews. 2000 years ago the Jews were the Phoenician/Caana. Like I said nothing has changed.:p

I wonder what you guys think, do you think the Roman Empire is still here?

Alltaken
14-Nov-08, 05:15
The fact is, leaders change, people still keep on living underneath whoever is having a power trip at the time.

The polish I believe have had a few different rulers, like a number of european countries. yet their countries don't cease to exist.

So in a way you are right, none of the knowledge or work the Roman empire achieved was really lost, it was just that the empire as an entity collapsed.

bigbad
14-Nov-08, 05:21
Yeah so? Europe is so much better than USA.

Healthier food, better wine and German porn.

kay_Eva
14-Nov-08, 05:30
To say that THIS is the Roman Empire is to say that the Roman Empire never existed. In which case I am inclined to agree. There is no Texas. The cake... oh, nevermind.

KAHR-Alpha
14-Nov-08, 06:29
So the basic pyramid looks like this: The Pope at the top, then the kings of Europe,

The fact that the EU didn't mention christianity in the constitution, despite the will of the pope, proves you wrong.


followed by the Merchant class, or what we call today- the Jews.

You love silly stereotypes, don't you?


BTW, the EU already has a hard time solving internal matters, so I really doubt it rules the world.

ManDingo
14-Nov-08, 08:26
Ay, there's the rub KAHR-Alpha. I'm so pleased you walked into my trap.:evilgrin: The motto of the EU is "in varietate concordia" which is Latin for Unity in Diversity. If the Roman Empire is not dead, then what the heck is going on?

KAHR-ALPA lets take it further, how many member in the EU? About 27. Yet why is there only 12 stars on the the EU flag, just like the zodiac.:D

Latin the language of the western Roman Empire, if I'm not mistaken Greek was the language of the Eastern Roman Empire. Yet today even Harry Potter speaks in Latin.:p

Remember, when Roman Legions retreated from Britian, the British would still send their elite to be educated in Rome.

Alltaken I agree with you, the people at the top change, but everything else stays the same. I know people in Kazakhstan and they're Russian through and through, yet the BBC only shows them with Asiatic faces. Propaganda, I don't know.:)

kay_Eva the Roman Empire is there it has always been there. Remember Catholics describe themselves as Catholic Apostolic Romano.:) Nothing has changed.

BigBad, I know you're devishly smart, you know more than you're saying.

abdealikhurrum
14-Nov-08, 08:34
Nothing lasts forever
NOTHING

dan_hin
14-Nov-08, 09:40
in before lock...

What Name?
14-Nov-08, 09:56
Ha, this is going to turn into a biiiiiiig argument.......

ManDingo
14-Nov-08, 10:16
Ding Dong and What Name, you're being lazy. I say to you, do you're homework first, educate yourself before you give an opinion. This way it will make illuminating discussion.:p

pixelmass
14-Nov-08, 10:21
ManDingo, here is a link (http://www.arcticbeacon.com/)for you to chew on...Thought I would slip it in before lock.

Sandrew
14-Nov-08, 10:51
Ay, there's the rub KAHR-Alpha. I'm so pleased you walked into my trap.:evilgrin: The motto of the EU is "in varietate concordia" which is Latin for Unity in Diversity. If the Roman Empire is not dead, then what the heck is going on?

KAHR-ALPA lets take it further, how many member in the EU? About 27. Yet why is there only 12 stars on the the EU flag, just like the zodiac.:D

Latin the language of the western Roman Empire, if I'm not mistaken Greek was the language of the Eastern Roman Empire. Yet today even Harry Potter speaks in Latin.:p

Remember, when Roman Legions retreated from Britian, the British would still send their elite to be educated in Rome.

Alltaken I agree with you, the people at the top change, but everything else stays the same. I know people in Kazakhstan and they're Russian through and through, yet the BBC only shows them with Asiatic faces. Propaganda, I don't know.:)

kay_Eva the Roman Empire is there it has always been there. Remember Catholics describe themselves as Catholic Apostolic Romano.:) Nothing has changed.

BigBad, I know you're devishly smart, you know more than you're saying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe#Number_of_stars

Even when the Roman Empire fell apart Italy (Rome) remained the cultural and religious (thus: scientific as well) center of Western-Europe. I'm sure you can figure out why everybody went there for an education.

Roman Catholics describe themselves as Catholic Apostolic Romano because their leader is the pope who rules from Vatican City in... you probably guessed it: ROME. Who would've thought?

There is no Roman Empire anymore, it got ruined as much by barbarians as it got ruined by corruption and betrayal. Even the idea that there still is a Roman Empire is stupid. The EU is a Union of nations, not an empire.

dan_hin
14-Nov-08, 10:56
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Europe#Number_of_stars

Even when the Roman Empire fell apart Italy (Rome) remained the cultural and religious (thus: scientific as well) center of Western-Europe. I'm sure you can figure out why everybody went there for an education.

Roman Catholics describe themselves as Catholic Apostolic Romano because their leader is the pope who rules from Vatican City in... you probably guessed it: ROME. Who would've thought?

There is no Roman Empire anymore, it got ruined as much by barbarians as it got ruined by corruption and betrayal. Even the idea that there still is a Roman Empire is stupid. The EU is a Union of nations, not an empire.

plus of course it's HQ is in Brussels...

mzungu
14-Nov-08, 11:01
All your base are belong to us.

Ace Dragon
14-Nov-08, 13:08
I believe during the end of days the Bible talks about the new Roman Empire.

Listen, it says New Rome, not Origional Rome

When the prophecy that the new Roman Empire will take shape comes true, do note that it will not be the origional Empire, there would be now an almost 2000 year period in which there was no Roman Empire because the old one crumbled and fell.

What Name?
14-Nov-08, 13:09
Oh, no, Cyborg! Don't go biblical.

Ace Dragon
14-Nov-08, 13:14
Oh, no, Cyborg! Don't go biblical.
ManDingo sprinkled religion on the subject of his topic, I'm just pointing out the Bible doesn't say anything about 'Old Rome' in the end times because that is history.

What Name?
14-Nov-08, 15:10
Okie dokie.

dan_hin
14-Nov-08, 16:57
whoopee, another add to the ignore list....

Moonflower
14-Nov-08, 17:09
Ooh,looks like things are fixing to get ugly here.

So, what's the temperature where you are right now?

(Fancy way of saying: THREAD-JACK! THREAD-JACK!)

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7350/jacked1ju.gif

"Blessed are the peacemakers...." :D

Have a nice day.

RedJay
14-Nov-08, 17:15
Currently 80˚F or, I think, about 27˚C here. Moon, http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1518/410gd.gif

Moonflower
14-Nov-08, 17:23
To quote funnyman Jon Lovitz, "Yeah, that's the ticket!"

(Above temp in Florida- November! Gotta loveit!)

Anyone else?

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7863/blabla8tx.gif

dan_hin
14-Nov-08, 17:33
well it's pretty warm for November...i'd say around 7 or 8 degrees C?

RedJay
14-Nov-08, 17:50
Well folks, here I am again. Your official Florida weather reporter. The temperature is still about the same. Tonight it will probably be in the 50's F (near 10 C), tomorrow a cold front is moving into the area and I think the high will be 70-something F(just about 20 C). But Sunday night will be in the middle to lower 30's F(pretty much 0 C), so be prepared. This is pretty cold for Florida in November and if I am not here on Monday morning, it is because I froze outside, yes I am up at the crack of dawn outside.

Thank you for listening.

Moonflower
14-Nov-08, 18:02
Actually, Tonight's low will be 65F, according to the National Weather Service in Ruskin, FL and WeatherBug.com :D

RedJay
14-Nov-08, 18:05
Notice the words "probably" and "-something":D Amazing, I did that all without visiting a weather website, watching TV, or listening to the radio!:D

And for the record, I like chewing on my earbud cords for my computer. I have no idea why. I end up breaking to many and buying to many. Now you know why I absolutely, straight-up-and-down will not spend more than $1 on a pair!

ManDingo
14-Nov-08, 18:06
See it doesn't matter which way you vote, I just want to see how illuminated you guys are.:D

I still say the Roman Empire lives on, just look at our architecture: its pure Roman. When our governments want to display power, they build Roman. Just look at our court buildings.

Sandrew, thanks for the link. But there's the trick, it's still 12 stars. And they even say it refers to the 12 signs of the zodiac.

Can I ask you Sandrew, why is it that these stars on flags have 5 points? The Ancien Regime( if you know what this means) lives on.

And probably next month the Merchant class is going to hurt us by doing a run on Gold. And of course, we all know the banks don't actually have gold, only on paper. When Gold goes up, the dollar goes down. If Gold hits $6000 per ounce then the dollar is dead and we're back to the Dark Ages.;)

Moonflower
14-Nov-08, 18:06
never mind.

Moonflower
14-Nov-08, 18:09
Nice, ManDingo,but in case you've forgotten:


http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7350/jacked1ju.gif

Now I'll talk about dogs.

What's your favorite breed?Mine is the Labrador Retriever. (I have 2 :D)

RedJay
14-Nov-08, 18:12
And I have one(lab). Honestly I like Chihuahua's best, but I wouldn't care to have one. For owning, I'd like a boxer.

And yes, my all-seeing, all-knowing weather gauge also didn't read the newspaper, fyi. It is really great!

Alden
14-Nov-08, 18:33
The Ancien Regime( if you know what this means) lives on.
>:I

Anyway,



So the basic pyramid looks like this: The Pope at the top, then the kings of Europe, followed by the Merchant class, or what we call today- the Jews. 2000 years ago the Jews were the Phoenician/Caana. Like I said nothing has changed.:p

It would be silly to argue against someone with your logic.

Moonflower
14-Nov-08, 18:38
Geez, you people just don't quit do you?

One more time:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7350/jacked1ju.gif

Next topic: Legos.

I loved mine as a child, but my parents didn't when I left them out at night :evilgrin:

RedJay
14-Nov-08, 18:41
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3724/offtopic2fz.gifAlden!:mad:

LEGOs! Ah, yes! Those things that everyone loves. Did you know that there is a LEGO theme park in Denmark, the home of LEGO!

Moonflower
14-Nov-08, 18:44
WOOHOO!!! Not to mention Lego adaptations of countless films and TV programs!

PurpleMint
14-Nov-08, 19:26
I doubt this thread will be locked now that it's two pages long.

Yes, legos are nice. But when I ruffle through them they make a loud crinkly sound that hurts my ears.

Sandrew
14-Nov-08, 19:32
See it doesn't matter which way you vote, I just want to see how illuminated you guys are.:D

I still say the Roman Empire lives on, just look at our architecture: its pure Roman. When our governments want to display power, they build Roman. Just look at our court buildings.

Sandrew, thanks for the link. But there's the trick, it's still 12 stars. And they even say it refers to the 12 signs of the zodiac.

Can I ask you Sandrew, why is it that these stars on flags have 5 points? The Ancien Regime( if you know what this means) lives on.

And probably next month the Merchant class is going to hurt us by doing a run on Gold. And of course, we all know the banks don't actually have gold, only on paper. When Gold goes up, the dollar goes down. If Gold hits $6000 per ounce then the dollar is dead and we're back to the Dark Ages.;)

Just because the culture of back then still has an influence today doesn't mean they're still an actual empire. Buildings of power are sometimes built with a greek facade because we used to do it during the renaissance and it looked good. It has nothing to do with power, merely aesthetics.

The stars on the flag are mere coincidences and the merchant class isn't going to hurt us or kick us back into the dark ages.

Ace Dragon
14-Nov-08, 19:39
This is what happens when you read too many wacky articles about illuminati and reptilians, you get people who constantly quake in fear like ManDingo.

I hearby give orders in the realm of my power for the government to put in a deep investigation of ManDingo and his residence, see if that happens;)

The Oracle
14-Nov-08, 19:44
They are not around any more but their ideology lives on and has perverted the planet into the cesspool of Rich VS poor we live in now.

Just look at what Emperor/ Saint/ Pope Constantine achieved. He took a group of passive people, and destroyed their culture down to the roots. He took their religious books and re-wrote them to suite his needs. And re-formed them into the most murderous, evil sect of people the planet has ever know. Since then they have orchestrated or financed every major war in one way or another.Have invented 98% of all known torture devices in history. They have successfully administered genocide and to this day still fund groups committing genocide. And today they are still hoping, and aiding the end of our planet so that they can fulfill their selfish false prophecy....To save themselves! (WTF!!!)

Yup, the Romans in spirit are still amongst us, just as selfish, stupid an cruel as always.Plus they got a flashy new name, which in some countries in synonymous with the word 'good'!

PurpleMint
14-Nov-08, 19:47
Oh, not you too! I'd say you were mandingo under another screen name but:

1. that would sound a little conspiracy-ish

2. Your writing style is different and I doubt mandingo would be that clever.

CubOfJudahsLion
14-Nov-08, 20:00
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The Oracle
14-Nov-08, 20:03
lol Cub of Judah lion :)

He should have used sudo , or switched to root first!

PlantPerson
14-Nov-08, 20:35
Philip K. Dick, author of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? fervently believed that the Roman Empire had never ended and that we lived in some sort of virtual reality that prevented us from seeing this "truth." However, he was also totally insane.

Good night, everyone.