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    It's a great time to build a PC today and forward. Last 5 years everything was exactly the same speed. Next few months is going to be even better.
    I can only give suggestions, personal opinions and constructive critique, but it is your decision what you do with it.



  2. #302
    Originally Posted by bigbad View Post
    It's a great time to build a PC today and forward. Last 5 years everything was exactly the same speed. Next few months is going to be even better.
    Even if one doesn't like AMD products, they're still providing credible competition for Intel, who in the absence of it, could just sit on their heels and print money with zero innovation and progress. If either Nvidia or Intel captures the entire market, it will be really terrible for the consumers.
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    ^^ This! It shows now Intel was greedy ...



  4. #304
    Originally Posted by ambi View Post
    Even if one doesn't like AMD products, they're still providing credible competition for Intel, who in the absence of it, could just sit on their heels and print money with zero innovation and progress. If either Nvidia or Intel captures the entire market, it will be really terrible for the consumers.
    If Intel were to be become the only x86 vendor, at the very least there should be pressure for them to issue an x86 license to someone else (maybe even NVIDIA).

    Even if NVIDIA became dominant (which they kind of already are), they couldn't charge whatever they want. The profit margins on consumer GPUs are already pretty low, which is why all the other vendors (remember Matrox and PowerVR on the desktop?) have left that market. They could return. An 8-core CPU for 300$ sounds like a good price to us, yet when it comes to GPUs, you can buy even bigger chips plus DRAM for the same price.

    Originally Posted by SreckoMicic
    ^^ This! It shows now Intel was greedy ...
    Oh, how cute. If the Intel execs did not set out to make the most money possible, they'd be unfit for the job. They can't be leaving money on the table to not appear "greedy" (whatever that even means). That's okay though, in an efficient market, they don't get to charge whatever they want. As it happens, there's tons of intellectual property and patent law that makes the market less efficient than it could be. Just look at what happened in the mobile space in the past years, where lots of companies have been in strong competition, because ARM licenses are available to everyone. Meanwhile, the Desktop was near-stagnant, because the only competitor to Intel brought a lame duck.

    Keep in mind that both Intel and AMD still want to charge top dollar to the enterprise. Only if there's enough demand in the "mass" market for multi-core CPUs, they will bother lowering costs to appeal to that market as well. So go ahead and buy as much 16-core CPUs as you can. Buy one for your mother and your grandmother. Buy one to frame on the wall! BUY BUY BUY!



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    Intel and nvidia had no competition and it really showed. AMD was all over the place with PS4 and XBone, cheap APU and so on. They never had the upper hand but they always did right with the price for what you were getting.

    Now for the first time ever they have this crazy advantage over Intel and Nvidia by making a really good CPU and GPU and all of the sudden 11GB nvidia gpus and 16 core intel cpus spring up from nowhere.

    AMD really goes full out with OpenCL and it works with Cycles without a problem. Also they are making a open renderer that will work even better with Blender because it will utilize every cpu core and all the gpus connected.

    AMD has done an excellent job also for promoting Blender. You don't have to be a fan boi to see all the good AMD has done here.
    I can only give suggestions, personal opinions and constructive critique, but it is your decision what you do with it.



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    The new BIOS update is being released to some motherboards, and a Modo user created a new screencast that shows the power of Ryzen's AI-based processing with that new update.
    https://www.screencast.com/t/NSghVRqlKM

    On the Modo forums, the guy mentions that the processing done by the chip actually gets faster as you use a piece of software more (which is not really something you see from Intel). Initial reports elsewhere in the web seem to be indicating some very nice performance boosts in general with the new update (as long as you get speedy RAM for your machine).

    One can only imagine how much faster such preview rendering will go with Threadripper and its quad-channel RAM ability
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