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    Real world testing is starting to appear, does the patch and BIOS update have an effect?
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3247...rformance.html

    In short, tasks like rendering are being shown to not see much impact, but tasks that rely on loading/unloading images and other file types to and from memory are taking a sizable hit (so working in apps. like Photoshop will have a less responsive feel).

    The remaining question is if this drop in responsiveness is enough to drive people to buy AMD machines in droves (especially if Windows gets smart enough to not apply the 'fix' if Ryzen chips are present). People have been commenting on tech. sites that this will do just that for them.
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    PC World reports that you should just deal with the periodic rebooting of your machine (if you have the BIOS update) because you'll at least have security.
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3248...ots-intel.html

    I understand why some make the case to have consumers put security first, but random rebooting could be a massive annoyance if you're doing things in 3D programs like long-duration renders and simulations (not to mention you work for an hour or do a long sculpt session and the PC turns off before you have a chance to save).

    Finally, what really might be the kicker is that the only Intel line that may not have the bug is Coffee Lake (so if you bought into Kaby Lake just last year, you have a machine that is hurting your productivity). What a mess is what some websites are calling these issues, and that seems to be credible.
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    Originally Posted by Ace Dragon View Post
    Finally, what really might be the kicker is that the only Intel line that may not have the bug is Coffee Lake (so if you bought into Kaby Lake just last year, you have a machine that is hurting your productivity). What a mess is what some websites are calling these issues, and that seems to be credible.
    Coffee Lake is affected by Meltdown and Spectre as well (unless you refer to the reboot issue as "the bug"), so customers will see a degradation in performance on these machines as well.

    That is actually the foundation of the class-action lawsuit Intel is currently facing in the US: Since Intel released those CPUs at a time they were fully aware of the security issues, an argument for fraudulent business methods can be made.

    There is a reason why Intelís CEO, Brian Krzanich, dumped $24 million worth of his personal Intel shares in November...
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    Originally Posted by IkariShinji View Post
    That is actually the foundation of the class-action lawsuit Intel is currently facing in the US: Since Intel released those CPUs at a time they were fully aware of the security issues, an argument for fraudulent business methods can be made.
    I was talking about the PC reboot bug in the BIOS update, not the security issues.
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