48fps

Talking about cinema:

It seems that 24 frames by second (fps) it’s old news and 48fps it’s the future :cool:

The 4K Sony cinema digital projectors already suport 48fps and many experts say that instead of incrising resolution to something like 8K, 10K it’s preferable to increase instead the fps to 48fps.
James Cameron says that is preferable to have 2K at 48fps then 8K at 24fps. The increse in fps compensates for the smaller resolution.

It’s also mentioned that 60fps it’s a exageration, the human eye can’t process that speed, so there’s a waist of frames…

So, the Golden frame rate for future movies it sems to be the all mighty 48fps.

What you guys think about this?

The human eye can see 72 Fps.

And is it 48p or 48i?

It’s most likely 48i which only makes it 24 in reality.

And how would a higher frame rate compensate for lack of resolution? Who ever told you this I doubt knows what they’re on about.

It would make it easier for those new 3D movies with the polarized glasses as you need to have a seperate frame for the left and right eye.

Anyway what will be the difference in the smoothness of the motion?

I don’t think one necessarily compensates for the other, but i do know that each has its own uses. For example if you’re watching something with a lot of action would benefit more from a higher framerate than resolution. This is why when you go to buy an hdtv they tell you to get an interlaced tv if you watch sports but progressive if you watch slow moving things

So if it’s a movie with a lot of action and motion like a Bourne movie or Transformers or something, then yes it would benefit from a higher framerate

Interlacing is essentially useless now, LCD’s and other digital displays are inherently progressive. to prevent sawtoothing interlaaced video needs deinterlacing, which always reduces the quality. only CRT’s can display interlaced video nativity.

superx10:
One good exemple where 48fps would be usefull is the Matrix Reloaded Burly brall scene, where the Agents Smith aproche Neo (the camera goes arround him)… there’s a unpleasent strobing (don’t know if this the name).

J.L Arts:
I’m talking about cinema, cinema frames are always progressive.
It was James Cameron… the Titanic guy.

Cyborg Dragon:
It’s allot fluid… the only disavantage I’m seeing is that we need the doulble of hard drive/film tape.

do you know red digital cinema? www.red.com
I think the site will talk for me!
just (up to 120 fps)
Just 5K !

Yes I do, I’m a great admirer of RED cameras.
You see that the 120fps in that case is used to create slow motions, if you film at 120fps one scene, and then run it at the standard 24fps or the possible future standard 48fps you will have a slow motion scene :slight_smile:

Exemple

But render times will be double, thus pushing up production costs. I don’t think this will catch on too quickly.

you are A Guru, any one know Red is a Guru! :evilgrin:

thedaemon:
Yes, that too :frowning:
… I don’t know if there is already some movie shot at 48fps, I know that IMAX has some films at 60fps, but are only for specific theatres.

fahassani:
I’ve been folowing them for a wille now, It’s hilarius to me when someone talks about a HD cam (1920*1080) costing about 50’000 € when the RED ONE costes 15’000€ and is a 4K one (more then the double of HD) and Scarlet will be 3K or even more for 3000 € … And Blender will suport RED code :cool:

See i know your Guru coz I have No news of Blender will support the RED CODE! (how that pass me!) say where you read the news?.
I was thinking of buying Scarlet but something say to me give it time.
Red is the tool for me and when it comes to fps red bypass me light years!
if there is anything out there is on the level of Red please do say!

That’s a shame. 24fps gives movies that classic “cinema look”. I notice every time it’s higher.

Wow, thanks for that link rogper, those videos look awesome!

The Casio EX-F1 takes footage at 300, 600 and 1200fps. :wink:
Its the first commercial video camera of its type.

Example

300fps Example
600fps Example
1200fps Example (Take that 3Ds Max!)

Theres plenty of other videos on youtube.

I nearly bought one, but id rather wait for a video camera which has the 1200 and 600 modes in higher quality.

edit Dont try this

24fps is the new black and white :yes:

fahassani See i know your Guru coz I have No news of Blender will support the RED CODE! (how that pass me!) say where you read the news?.
I was thinking of buying Scarlet but something say to me give it time.
Red is the tool for me and when it comes to fps red bypass me light years!
if there is anything out there is on the level of Red please do say!

It was here in Blenderartists discussions, but I can’t find it now :frowning: but I’m sure it’s here somewhere. As far as I know RED cameras are the the best of the best (digital cinema cameras that is), nothing comes even closer.

AD-Edge The Casio EX-F1 takes footage at 300, 600 and 1200fps. :wink:
Its the first commercial video camera of its type.

The casio has a big problem, the higher the frame rat the smaller is the resolution :frowning:
At 1200 fps is really small, arround 200 pixels horizontaly I think.

AldenThat’s a shame. 24fps gives movies that classic “cinema look”. I notice every time it’s higher.

Yes, that’s true, but once we get used tho the 48 I think we will never want another thing :slight_smile:

Yeh the 1200 mode is at 336X96 pixels.

So hence my other comment :

:wink:

AD-Edge:
Yea, I understood, it was a movie like coment :stuck_out_tongue: like when 2 cientists are speaking technical stuff that no one knows about and then always comes someone that explains what they are saying in a way the audience can folow hehe. When you mentioned higher quality I, in a dissimulated way, tried to complete your coment saying that it was about low resolution. Sorry for something :wink: