Amazon makes their game engine open source

True, and once it has been De-Amazonised it would make no difference, because any Amazon-Infusion would be removed. The problem is, as Stephen pointed out, Amazon are in a position to abuse their dominant position and the power it gives them. Amazon have far too many people in their flock who will use the Amazon version in order to access stuff that Amazon will restrict only to Amazon customers, or people who use the Amazon version.

It’s shocking that, as of writing this, only two people bothered to visit that link detailing the sinister behaviour of Amazon. I can’t understand why anyone would support Amazon in any way, shape, or form, especially after visiting that link. Those issues listed at the link are not conspiracy theories, they’re proven facts, and they prove what an out-of-control monster Amazon is, and why you cannot trust them in any way, shape or form.

The best thing you or anyone else can do, is completely avoid anything that is even remotely related to Amazon, because whatever it is, you can guarantee it is every bit as sinister as everything else listed on that website. I can’t make people visit the link and read it all, but I recommend you do, and that you scroll down the page a little and start reading that ever-growing list he has on there.

Click here for a reality check!

What I read there about Amazon sounds to me like something that can be applied to many companies ans industries world wide actually.

Amazon is an interesting story

They tore down brick and mortar book stores who gauged customers only to later become the same

And when it comes to shopping I admit I go to Amazon but not because I love Amazon but because honestly in many aspects traditional brick n mortar stores failed to innovate.

Going to a mall here in the USA is nothing I miss - it is all the same store selection anyway - in a humorous way one can see the offering kinda like socialist capitalism where everybody has the same - often here same crappy product quality for a overpriced dollar amount.

Shopping experience being fully absent.

For cloud processing would Google or Microsoft however be that much better either ?

Amazon is not going away anyway which it now good that globally they think about a global tax now.

Amazon invested a significant amount of resources in their own game dev studio but failed

So I see it at least a nice gesture to donate the work into FOSS

Adobe bought macromedia and then killed freehand

Freehand in many aspects did what illustrator and InDesign do together.

My point is just there is no perfect thing here - sadly

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You come across so innocent as to what Amazon are, and the difference between them and other companies out there, that I honestly cannot even be bothered to formulate a detailed reply, it would take too long and I think it would be in vein anyway.

I’m not into game making, but if I were, I’d be supporting projects that are open source for the right reasons, I’d be supporting Godot and wouldn’t touch that Amazon stuff if I were paid to do so. It’s highly likely they open-sourced it after realising the ground Godot is making, in an attempt to crush it through starvation by using its power to promote its own “open source” project.

As you can see from the monopolistic games Amazon are known for, this is a favourite tactic of theirs.
Bricks and mortar bookstores are another example of this very tactic. They used their power and influence to put them out of business, and are now opening their own bricks and mortar bookstores - absolutely disgusting.

Amazon also wiped-out copies of Orwell’s 1984 from everyone’s swindle. There’s a reason for that, too, and the only reason there could possibly be for them doing so, should send shivers down your spine!

So have fun with Amazon, rather you than me, I’ll stick to Godot if I need to make games, and I’ll continue to avoid anything and everything that is even remotely connected to Amazon.

If you use some form of service that use cloud computing there is a higher than likely chance they are using AWS in some form or other. Politics aside Amazon services are actually quite good and regardless of how you feel about O3DE being connected to Amazon, them open sourcing the engine and donating it to the Linux Foundation is a good thing.

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Based on what you write I might come across that way. Today I was at target to get a manual milk frother but they only had some electric options ( most expensive from Bodum) and holes in their shelve.

I know Amazon had it and their practice - but in the end I count spend another 1.5 hours to drive to other stores or buy the 15$ manual frother I know I can get on Amazon while investing 5 minutes.

Amazon destroys like Walmart many smaller competitors - but when it comes to bigger chain stores a lot of blame also goes to the for simply not innovating and being up to date. Look at the fall of bad bath and beyond chain.

@apoclypse has a fair point - you hardly can escape this too.

Amazon in the end gave this engine away for free so I am a little surprised about the problem here . You can use the engine even without Amazon cloud anyway.

This reminds me a little about the explosion surrounding audacity and the company collecting crash data while others call the app Spyware.

Don’t taken my comment as trying to convince -
I would be personally indifferent when using this engine because it is foss and highly customizable now.

Maybe it can also help people who we to learn writing such engine.

32 posts were split to a new topic: A whole bunch of off-topic stuff about Amazon

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Could we branch the Amazon prime stuff into its own thread ? This are actually Interesting reads but are not part of the game engine

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I am still trying to find out why I am going to be exited about this announcement. And I literally do not care who is behind the tool. Period.

I don’t care if it is Amazon or Google or Apple or Adobe or Autodesk or FaceBook or Bob’s Discount Furniture.

Seriously. Enough already.

I don’t care about either side of the debate. But I think the Amazon is evil point has been made and it would be nice to get back to the topic for us who actually don’t care about that and are interested in the tool. And not have to weed through pages of insurrection rant, just top get to, points about the usefulness of said tool. What it can do, what it can’t. What it means to me… and so on.

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So in all of this time, has anyone even installed and given this a shot? Is anyone even interested?

Days ago I was tempted to point out it might not even matter what connection there is to anything.

I don’t even see this as that huge of a deal given the current options already.

I went to the website and personally I was less than impressed.

Anyone have any experience to share?

There was a link I followed previously. I think this is a better one and shows more of what was able to do:

At least there are some decent graphics on that page.

And the you tube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQH55cT_em5E8XU2J8erMKA

I am getting a little more interested now. But regarding Cinematics it does not seem to have advanced much further than CryEngine. Both Unity and Unreal have much better features here.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lumberyard/latest/userguide/cinematics-image-capture.html

Good question. I would be neither surprised if they do or don’t do given that their “Star Engine” is quite a lot removed from CE and Lumberyard by now. They have added a ton of stuff by themself to their engine, I wonder how compatible that is to the derivate new engine Amazon cooked up.
It sure is in their best interest as a game developer to not give their competitors any advantage, but on the flip-side they have become so big, one could say “too big to fail” as a game company. They are still raking in millions, keeping the Guinness World Record for the most crowd funded anything.
That could give them some confidence in being generous, but on the other hand they are quite busy (they just opened another studio in Canada).

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Star citizen - the most crazy funded project

I am really stunned and impressed what the do and at the same time not fall apart

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And so… How do you see this Amazon tool stacking up against other open source game tools?

We’re receiving a lot of flags on this topic; I’m locking it until the @moderators had a chance to catch up.

Holy… just wow. There was a lot going on there. I’ve split of about a third of the posts that were in this thread over here. However, since even those posts are kind of all over the place, I’ve decided to leave that thread closed.

You’re welcome to start new threads (or join threads already in progress) on any of the topics that were brought up in those posts. This includes you’re opinions on Amazon as a company, discussions of Blender and open source development, thoughts on the Godot game engine, and the choices of the moderation team on this forum. However, none of those things are really on-topic for this thread. Points about those topics have already been made and there’s no need to revisit them here.

Please limit the discussion here to the O3DE.

I’m re-opening the thread. Please play nice.

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Particularly in cars do game engines increasingly find an entrance

The new hummers dashboard interface is such an example

I find it interesting how Epic has actively gone after other industries other than their core one. It’s smart to try to cater to different needs. O3DE could be perfectly positioned to be a great OSS alternative to. A lot of work still needs to be done to the engine though. I’ve played around with Lumberyard for a bit and it still has a lot of CryEngine quirks they need to address.

This has been my impression just trying to sort out what it can do. One of the things lacking with CryEngine was good docs.