Math, Programming, 3D and Art History and Traditional art (drawing , painting , sculpture)
I would toss in philosophy and physics too, oh well psychology
How do you know? …and why can’t we just switch to Youtube, now that it’s here?
I’m not at ALL convinced this is going to continue - have you heard of Wix (www.wix.com)? That’s probably the end of the field of -front-end- web dev right there. Have you heard of NOCODE platforms? (www.welovenocode.com ) - that’s, in the long run, probably the end of BACK end. If GPT-3 lets us program computers in normal English, as was suggested right here on THIS board couple days ago - then where is the need for software engineers??
No, I think we’re coming to the end of there being “money in IT”, as has been the case for the last god-knows-how-many-years. There will be a need for software people, yes, but a handful of “companies at the top” (Google, Amazon, Facebook) will make all the money. The “little shop” is going to be gone soon. And don’t forget that the GNU camp isn’t going anywhere - which, obviously, you KNOW, being on a BLENDER forum! If all software becomes free (and I do believe that with Microsoft shifting Windows “to the cloud”, this will probably be the moment when Linux takes over - at least, a strong chance of this IN INDIA), then - where is the money? (It’ll obviously be good for consumers though - we can’t have the 4th Industrial Revolution in the hands of a proprietory company!).
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What I specifically meant was – the price of a college diploma was, at that time, at least plausibly related to the cost of providing it to the student. It was considered to be important that students could pursue a higher education after high school. Since the infrastructure of a high school and of a university are basically identical, as are the true costs of running it, we could easily make a baccalaureate degree free, just like a high school diploma now is. Our society needs people to be well-educated. It would be a very sensible investment of society in itself, and an inexpensive one at that.
Instead, we are saddling students with absurd debt and demanding that they pay an exorbitant price which has zero connection with the cost of producing and providing what they finally walk out the door with. That’s unconscionable. Hell, that’s fraud. The poor student and his family is being swindled, literally just to enrich Wall Street speculators who “want him to be forever in debt” so they can sell derivatives supposedly based on that debt. There is no other reason.
What’s a derivative? Could you explain?
Does everyone need a full-fledged 4 year college degree though (which involves a lot of courses which have nothing to do with the job you are pursuing)?
Why not divert some of the higher education funding to trade schools, making them more numerous and able to take more students. You can still get a rather decent job that society needs, maybe those jobs are even better now because everyone wants STEM degrees and there’s now a shortage of certain types of workers.
Or what about colleges introducing ‘express degrees’ which are fairly specific and can allow you to graduate in half the time (because you cut out all of the extras you are forced to go through to get the required number of credit hours)? There are a number of ways to make education much cheaper without the need to raise taxes to extortion levels.
if you have the chance to go to university you should go to university. costs in canada don’t seem to be as crazy as in the usa. also don’t look into a “3d-modeling” course but get a real education in industrial design, architecture, fine arts, graphics design,… or even something completely different could lead to a 3d related job afterwards.
A “security” is supposed to be “a ‘security interest’ in a debt.” That is to say, the right to collect on that debt. It’s supposed to be directly linked and accountable to “a particular debt,” but you can guess how often that actually happens.
Meanwhile, a "derivative security" is supposed to be “a security interest in another security.” And you can very easily see how this de-evolves into a “hall of mirrors.” You can have “second derivatives,” and “third derivatives,” and so on. In this way, a single $200,000 debt – as if the securities in question really could be tied back to such a thing as the law supposedly requires – could “mirror” into $2 million or more in purely-phantom “wealth.”
Today, securities traders claim that the debts of about half-a-million students correspond to about $2.3 trillion dollars of this “money.” All of which are debts which, quite purposely, cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.
So – you’re being saddled with mountains of student-loan debt precisely so that other people can sell a security-interest in your indebtedness … then a security-interest in those security interests … then a security interest in those security interests in those security interests … etc.
“A Fool and His Money,” I suppose. Bounce a picture of a $1,000 bill off of a disco mirror-ball, and proclaim that every blob of light on the dance-room floor is another $1,000 bill. That’s how they do it.
(And, as long as you cannot “walk away from it,” they really don’t care if you ever “pay it off.”)
Hi Sincaia
My niece is in the same boat. She has just successfully completed a three year bachelor degree and is busy with honours, which her dad was able to pay for as the price of a degree in a developing country is much lower here. She is now looking for a place to do her Masters, possibly in Germany as her second mother tongue is German. She is trying to figure out what to specialise in, before she makes a choice.
I suggest you look for a undergraduate degree in the Philippines, Malaysia or somewhere nearby that offers a good technical degree with honours at a reasonable price. Do your Masters at a respected University that is renowned for whatever stream you excel at. If you do really well at your local university, then the chances of financial assistance from the outreach department of your chosen post graduate institution improves greatly. Try to reduce the financial burden to an absolute minimum, as this will improve the chances of finding a job that you love, because the need to repay student debt can be a pretty grim way to spend your youth. I think the experience of living and working in as many countries as possible before you are tied down by other responsibilities is of great importance in becoming a great architect. Also keep in mind that most countries expect you to have 5 years of academic training under the belt and to register at a certified/chartered architects board/mafia before you can practise as an architect.
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Have drank too much orange juice, or I drank too much something something, but I want to say , : Lots of good stuff here
Hi, 3D art degree here. Don’t.
If you insist on following higher education for a degree then learn something technical with practical (non-entertainment) applications that uses or is adjacent to 3D so you can get the employable practical skills while still getting some art-adjacent knowledge. Architecture, industrial design, computer science, geospatial technology, etc… If it has overlap between 3D and other fields (3D printing, manufacturing, design, archvis, geospatial, CAD) then do that . If they have some art classes that you can take as an elective then do that. You can do art stuff mostly on your own time or with groups of other students.
Generally speaking when it comes to art nobody gives a damn about a degree. In a creative field your portfolio is king and you can make a sick portfolio without a degree. In a creative field competition is fierce and pay is sketchy (everyone wants to be a creative which makes an infinite supply of bright-eyed fresh graduates who will gladly accept poor wages and work/life balance). So yeah, get a solid technical foundation and do art as a bonus instead of as a core.
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while i agree that a technical foundation + art as a bonus would be optimal, i think a degree does also matter in arts. maybe not the degree itself but the time spent at university. you just learn stuff, get in touch with stuff and meet people you most likely wouldn’t alone. it’s also important to get forced out of your comfort zone every now and then.
The film industry made $100 billion dollars last year, so doing 3D arts is a perfectly viable course choice.
Most jobs require you have a degree. You can take an aptitude test to get a degree, but chances are you’ll fail unless you followed the school’s exact curriculum. Technically, you can learn more on YouTube than you can in college, but it requires perseverance, good habits, and an actual desire to learn. But employers probably won’t consider you without a degree.
Unless you’re passionate about architecture, I’d avoid being one. It requires like 5-7 years of college and for you to pass a test to get certified. And then after spending $50,000-$175,000 on your 5 year degree, you’ll make like $51,000 per year and be in college loan debt. Btw, spending $150,000 on a degree doesn’t guarantee employment. You still might not get an architecture job & you’ll be stuck flipping burgers for $10/hour… Or more likely, you’d go homeless from the bank taking your house from not being able to pay the student loan back. And then there’s the looming threat of AI automating architecture and taking your non-existent job. Today AI is already on the verge of generating floor plans. In 7 years, when you’ve gotten your architecture degree, AI will be even more capable at generating architectural plans.
Another terrible thing about architecture is it’s so outdated. Compare pictures of New York from the 1900s and from 2021. The only thing that changed is technology, cars, and what people wear. The buildings looks EXACTLY the same. And here I am typing this in an old house with antique insulation that’s about as good as wet newspaper because none of the previous homeowners could afford to replace the insulation since this house was built in the dark ages before computers even existed. But hey, on the bright side, I guess architecture is so bad that it helps you to feel passionate about it to change people’s housing for the better. 
This needs to change. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE!
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Hey, If you really want to work as a 3D artist what will help you most (IMO) is getting good traditional art training and a school is best for that.
From what you’ve wrote, it’s still unclear to you what you really want, do you want to work to make pixar’s movie, big vfx, video games ? do you prefer modeling, animation, technical stuff ?
You don’t need all these answers but thinking about it may help you finding your own way.
Learning on youtube as @justwannapost suggest , of course it’s part of the job to stay up to date and school won’t teach you everything you need to learn anyway. But if you look at the majority of youtube tutorial makers, they don’t work in the film or game industry, they run their channels. Even if they put very valuable information here, they don’t teach everything especially when it’s industry related. There is learning material made by professional but it’s generally paid courses.
All that said, CG and art is a field where you can learn by yourself and get a job. People will look at your portfolio, you can have the best degree ever, if your portfolio sucks you won’t get the job.
On the flip side, if your work is good then they probably wouldn’t care what degree you’ve got.
What a school can offer you is saving some times (years) by getting you proper training. You’ll also make friend in the field and maybe ending up working with them. I learned all by myself and it was a tough road, I suggest you to find a school if possible and also learn by yourself so you get best of both world.
Try to find what interest you first if possible, and follow your gut feeling then, if you’ve got a year to decide try to explore all that you can in CG, try to learn blender to see what you like best in it.
Yeah, it’s ablism to only hire people with degrees. You could even call it financial discrimination.
it’s also financial discrimination that education is so expensive in some countries.
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I’m sure that this will change, but right now Wall Street is enjoying having half-a-million debtors who can’t walk away, and they have “securitized” their indebtedness to amount to – on paper – several trillion dollars. That kind of money buys a lot of politicians.
OP: Why don’t you have this chat with your prospective uni? “Your stuff is available for free on Youtube, so reduce your fees OR ELSE…”. Remember that they’re out to screw international students in particular - NEVER fall for that.
You still want potential hires to have a highly functional and workable knowledge of the job they want to do before being eligible for the job, with or without the guidance of formal training. The last thing an industry would want to do is the affirmative action hiring of people who studied engineering by playing Minecraft for a month.
Take Blender development for instance, post-modern social justice dogma states that the BF should look to add people who learned all of their programming by using Scratch to the core team, are you fine with that?
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