It’ll get ugly as soon as people (you know who you are) start throwing around words like “Nazi” or start making wild accusations that have nothing to do with this conversation.
If Bush or any immediate staff or cabinet changed the outcome by cheating on the direct vote at all I’d like to see their heads on stakes in the White House front lawn, likewise I’d feel the same way if Kerry had won.
But I doubt very much if either of them or their people would dare try such a wicked act–mind you it’s a different story for those involved on a lesser scale that have nothing to do with the bona fide Bush/Kerry campaign(s). Despite what you believe of what they have done, they aren’t evil. Nor are members of the UN who provided multiple filibusters in the UN against the US. (though even this is under question with recent findings of oil for food monies…hmm, now who’s in it for the oil?)
No one in any situation here is a savior of any kind, not Bush for the US, not France and the UN, and certainly not some in this community who gratuitously toss around words and phrases that directly reflect their inability understand history.