Bevels create ngons

Support Modeling
#1

Hello and thanks for reading this.

How can I bevel an edge and not get an ngon on the ends? I have looked at a tun of videos and almost all of them make ngons when they show you how to use the bevel tool and they never address it.

I found a thread where they kind of sort of talk about it here.

However there answer seems to be to add more supporting geometry witch is fine but I still don’t understand how to do that in such a way as to make my beveled edge transition into a non beveled surface.

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Here is a simplified example of what I’m talking about I want the beveled edge to transition into the curved faces next to it. In this picture There are now 3 ngons around the end of the bevel.

I have tried to use the ctr T comand and then convert to quads but that makes it worse when I add smoothing and subsurf.

I need to bevel some edges to get my mesh to match my high poly close enouph to not get artifacts in my bake. I can usually find solutions to stuff like this however I have been scouring the web for a couple days to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

#2

Even with ngons you shouldn’t get any noticeable artifacts when baking. What is your distance setting set at?

#3

I actually haven’t tried to bake it out yet I just wanted to get my low poly correct before I make my high. Everything I’ve read says ngons are a no no. I don’t want to put a bunch of time into my high poly just to have to start over on my low if I can help it. Is there no way to do this without ngons?

#4

I have been trying to reply for days now however because I am new all my posts get stuck waiting for an admin to look at them I guess… Anyway I seem to get pinching if I leave the ngons in. Is there any tricks to doing this without ngons?

#5

To the best of my knowledge, there is no way to tell the bevel tool to not create n-gons. You will have to bevel, then clean up the n-gons manually. This may require alterations to the surrounding topology.

In the image you posted, that could mean collapsing one of the edges on the little n-gon and adding edges to cut the remaining big n-gons into quads or tris.

Put another way, the large faces on your current model are too large to accommodate what you need. You’ve made it a little too low-poly.

#6

Thanks guys. That sounds like good advice to fix the little ngon first then adding edges to the larger faces as needed. I’ll see what I can do.

#7

The other way is to select complete loops, although then you may end up with more geometry than you want.