Blender Guru Grass Essentials missing. How come?

It’s no longer on Blender Market. Says the file was suspended. Anybody know what’s going on? I was just about to to buy it for a project.

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Suspended or removed by the creator. In this case, I’d guess the second one. You can contact BlenderGuru through BlenderMarket and ask why they removed it: https://blendermarket.com/creators/blenderguru

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My bet is a new and improved (and more expensive) product is coming soon. I’m definitely biased, but there are many other good grass options that don’t involve supporting the “Guru” he’s got enough noobs giving him money, spread the love to the other creators making high quality products for pros.

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Yes it was great when it was released but now there are better options in that regard !
Maybe it has just been removed because of that.

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This is a whole sidenote, but I 100% agree with you.

I respect Andrew (BlenderGuru) for his donut tutorials and for introducing so many people to Blender. His wholesale monopolization of the Blender tutorial space is annoying, but he’s earned his place in the spotlight.

What really gets me there is that he doesn’t really acknowledge the existence of other people. There are significant gaps in his tutorials and what they cover, gaps that are filled by all kinds of incredible tutorial makers ranging from Creative Shrimp (still pretty big, not as big) to small creators with only a few subscribers. If he was a little more willing to say “you should also check out X tutorial and Y tutorial maker”, I’d think more highly of him generally.

I’ve also found his devoted fanbase to be extremely annoying- specifically, they often regard him as the only Blender tutorial maker and expert, and use that to deride other tutorial makers. That’s not really his fault, but I do think he could do more to encourage people to listen to other voices than his.

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As a general rule of thumb, I don’t respect anyone who self-identifies as a guru.

Especially when they are in their 20’s

On a personal level, I made some commercial animation like 10 years ago that was featured on blendernation. The background color was a navy blue, based on a PMS color provided by the client. His critique was to not use the default blue background (remember that, haha). The color was close but not quite that color, and it felt like an assumption that was totally off base, I was matching corporate colors, not just forgetting to change my defaults.

The fanbase is definitely obnoxious, as they are legions of noobs who look up to this person who is famous for knowing more than noobs.

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Hahaha ! thanks for sharing !

Well , TBH it’s quite rare that people living on doing free tutorials do that, or it’s just that they’ve got some kind of “best content of the week” content, based on other’s content, or partnership…

But even if I think he’s got good tutorials I do get a bit annoyed too. Things like " 7 most important things that professionals will never talk you about, that will save you from dying in poverty as an artist…" Are quite misleading and probably do more bad than good to that young and easily influenced audience …

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I actually dislike Andrew a lot more than I said in that post, and for a lot more reasons. Truth be told, I’ve been really impressed with your incredible ability to speak positively and keep conversations optimistic and uplifting, so I’m specifically trying to be more like you :sweat_smile:

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I second that, @sozap manages to keep a calm and kind demeanor in all circumstances and it is quite impressive.

You’re making the world better, @sozap!

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Hahaha thanks guys ! That’s very kind !
I think working in CG as taught me a lot about staying calm and positive in whatever drama that could happen ! After all there are more important matters in the world than making good images or increasing a color by 2.5 % blue to stop clients from crying…
Generally we come to CG to have fun and enjoy what we do, but some situations could make it easy to forget about it !

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I hope you’re not implying that I’m a noob.

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Since you didn’t buy it, I think you don’t fall into that category, but that was close !
It’s a chance that he retired the product to save your reputation !

Blender community really change during years. Even before I start to use Blender I occasionally visit BA, mostly because on Blender Guru… mean dude on my local Art forum which use Blender and draw my attention. This was much more friendly envirnoment in this time… at least I remember in this way.
Really statements like : I don’t like this guy… and sound like you guys go much more further than “dislike”. Much further. And this is not only case of hat… mean dislike toward Andrew. And I read all kind of “arguments” including disgusting, fake Twatter accusations.
What is mean this “monetization”? For your info Blender long time ago go in this route. All kind of people catch Blender hype train and try to squeeze every possible coin from Blender users. From trash “tutorials”, materials packs to overpriced addons. When I see “drop to flor” I was interested, because use it non stop in C4D… But $10? Really, $10 for this?
Of course there is lot of people which share resources with community, but this become more and more exception.
And what kind of argument is that he “don’t acknowledge the existence of other people”? What he is supposed to do? He mention other people when others people have sense. For contrary most of new generation guru’s never mention others or give a credit. Such behavior is like reserved for old guard.
His advices are his opinions, no one is obligated to believe that they fit in his work. For contrary there are couple tutorial and merchandise makers which give advices from another side of sanity. Really bad ‘advices’, especially for young aspiring artists. And no one call them… interesting :thinking:

Funny things are that in other thread people talk about Pablo Dobaro comeback… Pheh… when think about all comments about him I don’t believe in this. He now work on his project, for money. Also he chose platform which is all but not user friendly… but look lucrative.
If I’m on his place and want to back to work on sculpting, I will rather go to work for Autodesk than back to community which cheer after I leave. … after many inappropriate comments.

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I once (years ago ) saw a tutorial from BlenderGuru and (seperate from maybe choosing a arguable name… well see mine :wink: ) he said something like recording this one for the eights time… and from time to time telling somelike there are several ways … i mean there are others really makeing mistakes while showing there skills and you even can’t understand what they are doing… or playing music in the background (or only music)… So his tut’s are planned and understanable… you might not like his humor… and don’t forget: he is making his living from that and so he sometimes uses usual trends on YouTube to be on top… fully understandable. And he did mention Top then Blender artworks of… until 2018 on his own internetsite… (Now more on Twitter and Instagram than back then when i looked into his tut’s).

And of course something like @BlenderBob is on a whole different level :wink: (who got a real boost by beeing mentioned by Andrew Price… )

To summarize it: He somekind of changed the standard for blender tutorials and because it’s is main income he sells stuff (sometimes mocked for this). And nowbody has to follow him…

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Not at all. AP just happens to be the welcome mat that a lot of people cross to get into blender. Some people are looking for a shortcut to awesome renders, and when their guru happens to sell some tools, he’s in a unique position to take advantage of inexperienced users.

As @Okidoki mentioned, Andrew did mention my name in his news letter as his new “best blender channel” (not to brag, just to say that it’s quite an honour and a huge publicity for me, even if I’m a “competitor”.) But I don’t think he has to worry too much about that. He has more than 2 million subs. I have 24k. So, yeah, I’m not threat to him. But still, just the fact that he mentioned me shows generosity and I got 7k more subs overnight because of that. So thank you again Andrew. I mention other YouTubers from time to time. And I will do it more and more. I don’t to this for the money. I do it for the community and to share my knowledge.

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Damn, should we start an association to save Andrew from being harmed ?

Personally, I’ve got really mixed feelings toward what he do.
I think he’s really good at teaching, his educational content is quite good even tho some funky mistakes chime in. His products seems great and polished too. He is also working hard at getting better at what he do. All that is pretty cool to me !

Being a blender user for some time (can’t remember exactly, since ~2003) I also tend to get regularly irritated by him. It’s more in the way he does things rather than the things he do : more like a bad door-to-door salesman, rather than a passionate/open-minded artist way (but I think he is passionate too). But I also think he is honest in what he do, and I respect that too !
But when he is wrong without knowing it, because of the way he talk/sell things, he then tell wrong things with a very loud voice and in a cheap convincing/commercial manner that I especially don’t like.

One of the thing he did in a really clumsy way, that was quite annoying to many people :
Toward 2013 he started a series of video about how to fix blender UI. Indeed at that time there was a lot to be said about blender UI. But rather than making a cohesive effort and put everyone on the same track. He unintentionally split the community apart and turned the thing in a real UI war that lasted for months.
Because he proposed to change blender so it’s way easier for beginners and general arch-viz/ product rendering work, but also discarded a lot of customization possible with blender for other kind of work. So lot of professionals or power users disagree with his proposal and most beginners feels that’s what was needed. And because the majority of users was beginners it was quite complicated to get a global understanding.
He made a lot of noise with that, running pools that looks a bit like “do you think blender should be more user friendly : Yes / No” and used these biased result to promote even more his ideas, ending in a big mess.
To a point that month after that he publicly apologize at the blender conference telling that after a second though his proposal was a bit naive…
In the end, some of his ideas were good and end up being included in blender, and all this has boosted the effort toward a better UI in blender. Not that dev’s were really ignorant about bad UI (as he claimed), when blender 2.5 was released there was really good UI design that was left unfinished. A bit like 2.8.
I think this drama end up well because Ton managed to take the best of that UI war and bring it to something constructive. I think this world need more Ton Roosendaals and less Blender Gurus.

Even if that’s one of the most extreme example, this point out a lot of things that I don’t like with him. In the end, it’s really a mixed feeling to me !
AfterEffect got Andrew Kramer, Blender got Andrew Price… it’s not perfect, but hey, the software is free… every features can’t be as polished as in a commercial product…

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I think you can sum up this entire discussion (that I unintentionally started, sorry for derailing this thread!) in this quote right here :slight_smile:

Andrew is for sure a good guy doing his best. He makes a lot of mistakes, but don’t we all?

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It’s not easy to make clips about a software like Blender. When I started using it, before doing Blender Bob, I had a few people in forums telling me to go back to Maya if I was unhappy with Blender because I did a sacrilege: I wrote a sentence that started with: In Maya, you can do…

So some people in that community are very passionate about Blender. Blender is the only good thing and Maya is pure evil.

I often criticize Blender for many reason but I always try to offer either a workaround or a potential solution. Still, many people hate when I do that. I can see it with the thumbs down.

I make mistakes too. Sometime I teach something to the best of my knowledge and if there’s a better way, I get tons of messages telling my I could/should have done it this or that way. That’s always appreciated because I learn too in the process. It’s just very frustrating that YouTube will not allow us to edit videos, like you can do on Vimeo.

In the first clip that I did, I did mentioned that I don’t have the absolute truth. I think that’s important. I did redo some of my clips completely because of new information I learned later. It’s a never ending process.

Some people don’t like Andrew, some people don’t like me. Some think my stuff is too advanced, other think I should do more advanced stuff. And I’m sure many people don’t like my sense of humour. You can’t please anyone. And especially when you have 2M subs.

At the end, there’s only one thing to consider: nobody is forcing anyone to watch the clips. It’s out there, it’s free. Making these clips takes a lot of time. If you like something, give the author some love. If you don’t, be nice and don’t give a thumb down. Just move on.

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I don’t know why people once in a while target A.P. for e.g., The Topic of this thread was a question/query abt a missing product which shud have actually be resolved by contacting the author, But here we are, ppl talking abt disliking his content !
If you don’t like his content, Unsubscribe and move on ! Simple.:grimacing:
I personally did not liked his channel much So I just Unsubscribed and moved on. Why spread Hate ?:pirate_flag:
I guess it is easy to perpetuate opinions hiding behind the internet. :alien:

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