BlenderArtists.org Theme (Discontinued)

I dont understand how you get 1970’s from that at all, but i guess its your opinion to make. The banner was fixed (it’s much easier to read now… i dont know if you saw the image with the outer glow switched to black, scroll up) and so what if someone is working on it? i say its better to have two to choose from rather than one = )

I’m sorry my theme dosnt appeal to you but hopefully others will like it. When i get the entire thing done would be the best time to make a judgement… this is still a WIP. Not even the color theme is permanent.

Anyway, thanks for commenting and giving your opinion. Do you have any constructive suggestions though? That would be helpful.

I’m not wishing to offend so please understand that this is just an opinion to be taken or ignored.

I’m old enough to remember the 1970’s so when I say it looks a bit '70’s, it’s because it brings back memories of that time. In the 1980’s I was airbrushing vehicles and one of the influences back then was a guy called Roger Dean:

http://www.rogerdean.com/

Check out the text on that page. That’s pretty much what he was doing 25-30 years ago!

My first thought when I saw your banner was “hippy”. Don’t worry about it, it’s just my opinion. As a fine artist who leans toward the “traditional” I do things that don’t appeal to a lot of people - so just be ready to accept that when you engage in something like this, a proportion of people just won’t share your vision (I avoid public art requests for that reason).

As for constructive, I can only again suggest that I’d prefer something visually simpler. Something that is easily read - by people with small computer screens too. As a graphic artist, one of my pet peeves is the use of really fancy text that is all but unreadable. It has a place, but with some fonts it’s difficult to know what that place is.

Your “post reply” button for example, is huge in the sample posted yet is difficult to read even at that size. Imagine how much harder it will be when it’s reduced 50% or more down to its final size. Then imagine it thrown in with all the other buttons and menus and imagine the first time forum user trying to find things (it’s often hard enough even with plain, easily readable text!). Forum headings and buttons text need to be simple, sans-serif and contrasted enough to read at small sizes.

Also, I’d like to think the updated site will use Sago’s emoticons (there’s a thread somewhere) and if so, the look and feel of the site needs to be compatible. Of course, it may not use them.

Was your banner graphic created with Blender? It doesn’t feel 3D.

Your nav-bars are more “appealing” (to me). As an OSX user, they feel very familiar but I don’t think the drop shadows add any benefit. Some people may feel the perspex look is a bit cliche. I don’t think they marry well with your banner - they seem to head in very different directions.

(EDIT: With regard to drop shadows, the real problem is black text with black/grey shadows. Light text with a small shadow based on the background colour is more acceptable).

In general, I’d say forum graphics should be fairly simple and easily read. The banner can be as wild as the community wants it to be but still needs to fit with the overall feel of the site. I can only suggest looking at other forums (preferably professional or semi-professional forums, like CGsociety) and see how they approach the functional details and overall site design.

Good luck with it.

Yeah maybe the colors on the banner are a bit much, but yes it was created with Blender. (some of it at least) I’m not personally offended by your opinion because it allows me to view my art from another person’s perspective who dosnt favor it, and that is always a good thing because i can see the flaws in my design. I think your main concern is with the colors in the banner, and like i said, that can be changed according to the final color theme.

Do you have any suggestions as far as changing the colors on the banner? I saw some of your paintings, and you must know quite a bit about color theory so i will respect your suggestions and implement them if i agree to a certain extent.

Again, thanks for your opinion AndyD.

Actually my biggest concern is the typeface in the banner. The imagery is more of a personal taste issue and if popular opinion favours it I’m sure I’d learn to live with it :slight_smile: I don’t have a problem with the colours, as such, or even the image itself, as such. It’s a genre thing and I guess it’s just not my cup of tea - it is more to do with personal preference and therefore, not entirely important in the scheme of things. If I were to try and comment more constructively on that point, I guess I’d say it’s perhaps not very universal - it seems to belong more in a “gothic”(?) gaming group or something.

That typeface though, well - I really can’t find anything positive to say about it :wink: It just doesn’t feel like it belongs in a general CG-related forum and certainly shouldn’t be used on anything as important as site navigation.

Just for fun, maybe try some simpler, contrasting, bolder typefaces on the banner and see how that goes.

EDIT: I just had a look at your website and I have to say that what you present there is far more appealing than what you’ve presented for your banner. You have some incredible work there and it would be good to see some of that vibrant energy in your banner presentation… In my opinion :slight_smile:

I like the tentacles on the main banner.

This might not be what you want to hear, but my main problem with the forum’s navigation is that the width of the text column is set slightly wider than my screen (800 x 600). I don’t know if that is changeable, or if you’ve built so much round the existing size that I’m saying this too late.

The buttons look quite Mac-like to me.

Will the new graphics load fast?

A strange idea here - why not try to make the forum mach the design of the other blenderartists.org pages?

The graphics probably wont load fast, and it dosnt match the blenderartists.org theme…

This seems like a waste of time and effort, i seem to be getting mostly negative responses so i’ll take that as a hint that i should stop.

So much for trying to help the community huh?

@Ven0mSevenX
hey ! head up !
if an attemp is bad throw it away, take a break and then start another try

@others
ive taken a quick tour through other forums and boards… and most of them
are bad too, or there were the standard, out of the box, ready to
run themes…

just to give an quick example what I like to see:
http://www.xsibase.com/forum/
this one is very good made (I think)

a very important point is that many people visit this site often 3,4,5,6,7 times
a week. And its not easy to make cool gfx which are so nice that you can have a look at it 1000 times or more and they dont get annoying
I dont want to say thats the case from Ven0mSevenX graphics just to keep that in mind in general

I have a theory that with most things in life requiring some sort of community support, that support will rarely run higher than 40%. However, the remaining 60% won’t all agree on an alternative so it isn’t really a 60/40 split.

Don’t take the comments as “all negative” - take them on board. Ask yourself whether you are open to suggestions or if you just want people to agree with your first submission, no questions asked? Read what I wrote - I don’t like the font as it simply is not readable. That is a hardly a major blow for any designer - just try some fonts that are actually readable - that’s all. It doesn’t mean you’re stuck with Helvetica but readability (on multiple platforms at multiple resolutions) is a major issue and will wipe out a large selection of font choices.

A lot of the imagery on your website is very appealing and I feel it could be made to work (I’m intrigued that you chose a black/grey option for the banner when you’ve obviously experimented with luminous colours in your other works) but I’ll say it again - the typeface should, in my opinion, be readable for a forum of this type.

(Now, it may well be a waste of time based on the fact the admins are supposedly already building a theme but you knew that early on).

Actually, I like the design much better than that of the artist forums military banner, and site that is updated less than my own. I shouldn’t be discouraging. I personally am fond of tentacles far more than the military

I also have a knack of pissing people off on forums.:smiley: Sorry about that.

Actually what we have now isn’t final. The guys working on it are just busy a lot of the time.

Paitence…we will have a full CMS and forum integrated into one another.

first of all, what does it mean by ‘Discontinued’? if this is the place to discuss the new theme and layout for the forum and the rest of blenderartist.org, well may i suggest the graphic artists take a look at futuremark.com

I really hope you end up with a simple yet elegant design that’s not too flashy. The original elysiun theme looked good, and it works well as the blender logo is orange.

It means im not going to work on the theme anymore… Is it really that hard to understand?

I think thats too bad, it really look good… In my opinion, I think i looks very good too me, I don’t care if the forum is elegant, It IS readable(too me)… so… Its a pitty you stops on this good work Ven0mSevenX…

HOLY COW WITH A MACHINE GUN!!!

That is a great banner! I really hate to see this discontinued…

I personally think you should model and render the whole thing right out of Blender without post-pro, and try to keep it as similar as possible. That will really show off Blender’s capabilities. Also make all the text Blender’s default text (bitstream vera sans) so that it’s blender-ish. Maybe make the Blender logo an intregral part of the banner.

Yogyog, have you read the hardware requirements for Blender? it states that you should have a 1024 x 768 screen minimum. That means that 90% of the people who veiw this site will see it fine, and only you and a few others will see the banner as too large. Try to get a new screen or graphics card or update the drivers for your current one. That will fix that.

That last banner actually was very readable, and the Post Reply doesn’t have to have a reduced size.

I know it says discontinued but I found this Vbulletin site for you to gaze at. Its the same topic but just cars

http://www.cg-cars.com/forum//forum.php

Hi, Ven0mSevenX. I’m adding some links to my blog, and was looking around for the official BlenderArtists Forum link button. There doesn’t seem to be one yet. Do you mind if I borrow your banner and resize it as a link button until an official one is published? I think it looks pretty cool, personally.

No problem man, go ahead = )

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