bush in 30 secs


very good stuff some of that.


Good for them. I can’t stand that warmongering, incompetant, phoney baloney twit.

So “he” is not the man he says to be?!? :o

ohhh… I thought he was a honest man… so religious,…

I’m still wondering how somebody can still trust his words.

If there religious then they must be good, yes America can use more of John Ashcroft bible laws %|

This is all I have to say:


No, it doesn’t and stop throwing that all the time, it’s really starting to get old.


OK. Tell me–in one sentence that has 15 words or less–exactly why you all abhor Bush to such an extreme.

Besides ignoring the comman law and invading Iraq, I’ll say that’s enough.

Hey Guys!!

Please calm down. Two questions: Is this the right place to say the same political opinions every common guy seems to share??
Is it better to sulk and say nothing more worthy than the others??

Off topic chat makes it the right forum… and I think rather than wishing to argue he was just pointing out a cool website. Has anyone seen the Dean bashing ad? I like the one with the old couple.


OK. Tell me–in one sentence that has 15 words or less–exactly why you all abhor Bush to such an extreme.

All presidents told lies, Bush lives in a sea of self-serving lies.

Please don’t get offended, I can see why you like him, but I think most supporters tend to overlook the major problems with him others have. Watch those videos.

Is “Moronic lying and deciving warmonger” a complete sentence?


I’m just wondering how much of this has more to do with the fact that he’s a Conservative Christian Republican than his policies? Democrats have led us into war. It’s considered justifiable (until a Republican president is elected in haflway through then it’s evil). A Republican leads us into war after an extreme terrorist attack and he’s a warmonger.

Poor economy with a Democratic president? It’s just a naturally occuring pattern that will fix itself. A Republican president elected in at the time of an economic downturn? It’s all his fault.

And don’t get me started on the remarks made against him because of his faith. I guarantee that if he were an athiest/agnostic liberal Democrat people would keep their traps shut about him.

Now some people have legitimate problems with him. This rant is not aimed at those people. However, 50% of the people I’ve heard from that don’t like him feel that way because he’s a Christian, 49% feel that way because he’s a Republican, and only 1% has a legitimate beef with him. It’s that 99% that I’m addressing here.

From a non-american point of view, it is its policies which do the trick, we don’t event know the differences between republican and conservatives. It is amazing how much US contempt has grown in europa since he is at the white house.

And it is not only the war in the gulf, but simple abuse of US strength by governement and US companies to enforce US policies everywhere without any think of the others. Kyoto protocol in the shambles, genetic “enhanced” plants, patent of the living, world court of justice, selfish exploitation of third world economic are examples of this.

And then, they are astonished of terrorism coming from parts of the world where all hope has wanished, and make preventive war (oh fine term).

bah… bush bugs me. im only 15 and i can still understand why people hate him… heres a little something i cooked up in the blenderchat room last night:

i think that bush should get a ‘stunt president’ to perform tasks beyond his ability such as pronouncing words

i also regularly refer to illiteracy as george bush disorder…

Bush isn’t a Republican, he’s a Authoritarian, I don’t know why people can’t see this, I think the only democrat that is actially a democrat would be Wesly Clark, all of the other runners are socialist or communist. Do you remember an episode in the simpson when the two alians kindnap the government and ran for office ? This is the exactly the same thing, no matter who you vote for, It’s for the same cause and that’s really what worries me about this, seem like the lessor of two evil turn out to be a little more of the lessor of two evil every election.

Bush isn’t a Republican, he’s a Authoritarian

Once again you cross signals, and make blatantly incorrect statement.

Yes he’s spent more money than Clinton did, militarily I agree with his policies, but the meaningless social crap that Clinton that Clinton instituted is being approved of, and given more funding by bush. In that respect I don’t like him.

Back the fact you can’t tell the difference between political parties and Governmental systems and philosophies just concretes my view on and of the things you believe. You were probably one of those anarchist fools who trashed Portland and Seattle during the last WTO meeting in this area.

I think dwmitch just made an incredibly valid point in saying that people hate him because he is a Christian, why do they hate him because he is a Christian?

Because in the sixties the red diaper doper babies railed against “the establishment” (which most are now a part of), which was mostly a Christian “thing” at the time.

<RRDB> Morals suck man…[takes on his bong]…do whatevah feeeeeelllsssss good baby…


About bush being a warmonger, let’s review the Clinton campaign on the military:

He instituted the gay crap that made the vast, vast majority of people in the military squirm, this kills morale. Remember, morale matters in peacetime too.

Let’s first review how he tried to run from the draft:

  • Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number # 3 26 46 228.

  • Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964

  • Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968

  • Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969

  • Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military

  • Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969 under authority of Colonel E. Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

  • Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

  • Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) ‘registrant who has failed to report…remain liable for induction’.

  • Bill Clinton’s birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

  • Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

  • Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

  • Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter.

  • Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.

Now let’s review how many time he sent men and women (who, needless to say VOLUNTEERED to go into the military, not forced.) into “Peace keeping” (what a friggin’ joke.) actions that for the most part failed to do any good. They looked good on cnn (barely), not in real life. Not in a particular order, there are quite a few, I’ll name the larger ones:

Somalia (Bush 41 wasn’t having problems here, how did clinton get it so bad?)

So before you start calling bush a warmonger, remember, the “social hero” clinton was worse in his first four years than bush.

Justification for Iraq:

My view:

First off, let’s read United Nation’s Security Council resolution one-four-four-one, and it’s associated resolutions.

The following is one of the most important sextons of the document:

  1. Decides that Iraq shall provide UNMOVIC and the IAEA immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access to any and all, including underground, areas, facilities, buildings, equipment, records, and means of transport which they wish to inspect, as well as immediate, unimpeded, unrestricted, and private access to all officials and other persons whom UNMOVIC or the IAEA wish to interview in the mode or location of UNMOVIC’s or the IAEA’s choice pursuant to any aspect of their mandates; further decides that UNMOVIC and the IAEA may at their discretion conduct interviews inside or outside of Iraq, may facilitate the travel of those interviewed and family members outside of Iraq, and that, at the sole discretion of UNMOVIC and the IAEA, such interviews may occur without the presence of observers from the Iraqi government; and instructs UNMOVIC and requests the IAEA to resume inspections no later than 45 days following adoption of this resolution and to update the Council 60 days thereafter;

Iraq did not allow inspector unfettered access as the resolution dictates. Material breach. Therefore, nothing relevant to WMD could be found. Each time the inspectors began to lodge complaints about Iraq’s not complying, Iraq quickly and repeatedly dropped a few crumbs here and there to keep anything big from happening, Iraq had more than enough time to move any and all weapons to secure locations, or to destroy them. A final slap in the face for America, and her allies.

Iraq effectively, and successfully used France, Germany, and Russia’s permanent Security Council Resolution seats, as well as their complete lack of integrity (Some research into mainly France and Russia’s pre-war behavior with Iraq will be most certainly disgusting) to hamper America and her allies from prosecuting Iraq’s continued noncompliance with UNSC resolutions.

If think I’m mislead, please introduce concrete evidence that I’m in anyway wrong, I am open-minded, and willing to see faults in anyone. We are all human. Instead much of the time I am told I am mislead, stupid, etcetera, based on someones hunch and a few conspiracy theories that Bush is a Nazi.

OK, we went in because we thought the weapons were there, and I still hold my ground that they were.

Had we gone in, in December when we said we would (“we” refers to the UN) we would have found said weapons.

But tell me, what’s the down side to freeing Iraq?

They asked for “more time” when everyone realized that Iraq was not fully complying with 1441, as with other resolutions.

B) Claiming America weakened the “International resolve”? That makes no since because since the aforementioned countries being I believe fully aware of the material broacher(s) that were occurring, did nothing but buy time for Iraq to export and/or destroy it’s many weapons.

France, Germany, and Russia, along with a few other select countries damaged, and even destroyed United Nations credibility. I believe America and her allies had absolute no choice but prove to the world that if UN has become like the League of Nations someone has to stand up and fight for freedom.

If we sit around and let tyrants like Saddam grow into evil men like Hitler, with the same power, only easier to access we place every nation’s security and freedom on the back burner.

Fine, show us an Iraqi WMD and while you’re at it prove Iraq represented any kind of threat to the U.S.

I most likely can not, because as I said, the UN weapons inspectors weren’t given sufficient power to do as they needed. They were much of the time told to wait up to several hours while Iraqi officials “secured” a building for the inspectors to look at.

Those weapons could have been carted off to other nations, or destroyed.

It all comes down to the fact that the weapons inspectors were not given proper military escort. If they had been we may have just found the said weapons before Saddam had them moved and/or destroyed.

Nice distraction but here’s the newsflash: The war was not fought because Iraq wouldn’t leave the UN inspectors alone.

Sure it was, as I said above.

If we connect the dots a tad more here, we might understand the reasons for such a war.

I too would like to see come concrete evidence of these weapons, but it won’t happen simply because they no longer exist or they were moved.


When bashing someone elses english problems, please use proper English yourself.

It will only serve to strengthen your own points.

Everybody slips up now and then. I do quite often when speaking to others, does this make me an idiot, a person incompetent of holding any office?

Hey, people, you can bitch and whine about Bush all you want, you can even make childish, petty, pointless websites like the one above, but neither you or your cause will gain one ounce of credibility.

I don’t approve of his policies, but I don’t whine about it all the time. If I had a problem I would try to do something about it. Unlike Micheal Moore and the other liberals that FABRICATE lies and slander people to make their way to the top. Bowling for Columine is 98% .

Jeeze Dittohead, look here http://www.politicalcompass.org/ It clearly shows George Bush in on the line of Authoritarian and Conservitive position, he maybe a little bit of Republican, but if he has gone this far he will surely cross over to Authoritarian in the future.

And it was wroung to go in Iraq even if there were WMD, because it’s a right of a country to defend themself anyway they see fit, got it ? Besides, ever other country also have WMD are we going to envade the UK just because it may be a threat in the future ? And how could we call terrorist terrorist, while it’s no different then premtive strike, even if people are innocent, you can still call it premtive, right ? And since when does conservitives support exporting government to the UN ? Is a country going to defend themself by there standerds or by a bunch of wigs of the UN that can also take away your right for self defence ?

It appears you justify Bush by saying he’s the lessor of two evils, I hate to tell you this Ditto, but you still support evil.

By the way, when is a country going to evade the US to free us from the IRS ?

I’m not even clicking on that link dude; it’s another anarchist’s poison site.

Secondly, if you see no difference between the morals of Saddam Hussein, Hitler and bush then you have no right to make the claim the claim that “countries are allowed to have WMD”.

Then if countries are, would allow Bush to create an arsenal 5 times the size he has now of ICBMs?

You obviously never read my post, al. Because it lays the ground work for finished the 1st gulf war, it WAS NOT and preemptive strike by any means.

How quickly we forget. Some same America is forgiving nation, it’s a forgetful nation. I count you with large percentile of unheeding, forgetful people who can’t see the whole truth.

I do agree that the UN is just a bunch of gas bags.

If you think I support evil, you’ve got it all wrong.

How does “evading” (the act of fleeing from a chosen party of peoples, persons or the like, in a stealthy manner) the US get rid of the IRS?

And I do agree hat the IRS needs to go, bush needs to stop spending on frivolous social crap, and up the size of the military budget, like any true Libertarian belie

PS I never said he was a lesser of two evils, because he’s not evil.

I can see a big difference between the morals of Saddam and my Prime Minister… Is Greece allowed to have WMD??? O.k. not as many as U.S. have… Just 1 or maybe 2 Nuclear warheads… That’s all we need to preserve freedom, peace and democracy… Can we??? We are with the good guys you know…

Then if countries are, would allow Bush to create an arsenal 5 times the size he has now of ICBMs?

Oh and we promise that it will be just 1 or 2 warheads… We will never exceed, that number…

Dittohead, you know how much I respect you man, but you simply can’t say that Bush is a good guy because he is not increasing his WMD arsenal and present it as a good thing… That arsenal, even “diminished”, still exists… That’s not an excuse… :o

Besides, even this doesn’t prove something… Why would he want to spend more money and build more nuclear bombs??? The existing “stock” is more than adequate… It can “kill” the planet a thousand times… :o

No country is allowed to have WMD… And that also includes U.S.A. as well!!!

And I do agree hat the IRS needs to go…

I’m with you on this… These guys are evil!!! They “suck” the blood out of me, every year… :smiley: :stuck_out_tongue: