Buying from IBuyPower, don't know much about computer parts

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So in a few days, I finally get to buy a new computer! I have a budget around $1,000 and this is what I have come up with:

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Case
1 x NZXT Source 210 Gaming Case-Blue

Case Lighting
None-

iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction
None-

iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion
None-

Processor
1 x Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Processor (4x 3.40GHz/8MB L3 Cache)-

iBUYPOWER PowerDrive
None-

Processor Cooling
1 x Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1155]-Standard 120mm Fan

Memory
1 x 16 GB [8 GB x2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module-Corsair Vengeance

Video Card
1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 - 2GB - Free Upgrade to 650 2GB EVGA Superclocked-

Video Card Brand
1 x Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA-

Free Stuff
1 x [FREE] - Razer Arctosa Gaming Keyboard-Free with purchase of any desktop

Free Stuff
1 x [FREE] - Gigabyte GC-WB300D Bluetooth 4.0 / Dual Band WiFi Expansion Card-Free with purchase of Intel Desktop

Motherboard
1 x Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H – 1x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 4x USB 3.0-

Intel Smart Response Technology
None-

Power Supply
1 x 500 Watt - Standard-

Primary Hard Drive
1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE – 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive

Data Hard Drive
None-

Optical Drive
1 x 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive-Black

2nd Optical Drive
None-

Flash Media Reader / Writer
None-

Meter Display
None-

USB Expansion
None-

Sound Card
1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard-

Network Card
1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)-

Operating System
1 x Windows 8 + Office 2010 Trial [Free 60-Day !!!]-64-bit

Keyboard
1 x iBUYPOWER Standard Gaming Keyboard-

Mouse
1 x iBUYPOWER Precision Gaming Mouse-Midnight Black

Monitor
None-

2nd Monitor
None-

Speaker System
None-

Video Camera
None-

Advanced Build Options
1 x iBUYPOWER Specialized Advanced Packaging System-Protect your investment during transportation!

Case Engraving Service
None-

Warranty
1 x 3 Year Standard Warranty Service-

Rush Service
1 x Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee)-No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days

Subtotal*
$1034.00 (plus tax & shipping)

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I don’t know a whole lot about computers, so please help me out if I am doing something horribly wrong or getting a bad deal.

Thanks!
Jonathan

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Check this out… Free WaterCooler…
(Its not the new Vishera Chip… but the water cooler is free) pretty good deal…

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106011

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Power supply looks low. I’d go with 700 W minimum

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the Nvidia 650 isnt that great for Cycles and like daren said the 500watt is kinda low…

The Nvidia GTX650 is about as fast as my AMD FX8120 CPU @3.6GHZ

With that CPU posted above with watercooler 8150 you could easily get 4.0-.4.4GHZ

Or better yet, get the Vishera 8320 or 8350 and OC it
(wish they had the free watercooler deal with it…)

you could buy a Vishera 8350 or 8320 and the one with the free watercooler and then sell the un-used 8150 on ebay
(just take out the Watercooler and sell the CPU,
Make sure you post on ebay that its CPU only… etc…)

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Thanks guys, I’m glad you can help me out with this BEFORE I purchase. It would be a PITA to find something not quite right afterwords.
So up the power supply to 700 watt, but which Nvidia card is good for cycles (that’s not too expensive)?
Thanks again,
Jonathan

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To the people who are recommending bigger PSUs: Why?
700W is absolute overkill, at least on that system. Unless you are putting in multiple GPUs, a good 500W supply will be enough for most CPU/GPU combinations. If anything, I’d go for a proper-brand PSU, because who knows what kind of junk they sell as “-Standard-”.
As for the GPU: Just look at the benchmarks to see what kind of performance to expect.

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As much as I like diversity and competition, AMD has no real alternative to a Ci7, if you can afford it, top up to get the -K and overclock it.

The 8150 is a nice-try CPU, but it consumes more power than the Ci7, is at many tasks on par with the Intel, but also at a lot of them considerable slower, ranging from 15-75% speed difference.
Not much better for the 8350, which is also slightly slower than the 3770. It too consumes a lot of power.
And if you OC it, it gets faster and consumes even more, and you can OC an Intel as well.

And it’s not just gaming, where the CPUs are pretty much on par, but for stuff like Cinebench, where @reference clocks, the Intel wins all the time, but marginal… talking about 6.9 vs. 7.2 scores… somthing like that. May be marginal if you render one still for 1h, but will attribute if you run rendering an animation for a few days and can scrap of a day per CPU because its faster. Depends on what you’re after.

Unless somethings specifically compiled for the AMD, or some single tasks, the Intel is always better.
There’s a reason why AMD want’s to stop producing regular CPUs and focus on the server segment.

But do your research, there are plenty of articles on this topic in the internet.

The only thing that attributes for AMD is if you choose not to spend much money on hardware, or don’t need the top performance and rather have a good price to performance ratio.

As for the PSU:
In my C2Q-9550 System I got 2 graphic cards, 8 drives and 9 120mm fans along with a small city of USB devices and it runs with a 750W PSU without toubles even under full load, and it’s not really a powersaver system and heavily OC’d.
With the 600W PSU it had before it was shaky on it’s legs :wink:

Also consider, that efficient PSUs have their peak efficiency at peak loads.
If you buy a 90%+ 1kW PSU it means it has the least loss running close to the 1kW.
If your system only uses 350W, the efficiency can drop down to abyssimal numbers, and you literally make hot air from money.

And i am with Zal, better get a quality PSU. If your cheapass PSU frys and kills the mainboard and 2 HDDs for examply in the progress, the joy is limited. Although a PSU is just a box of power, the more you pay, the better the components inside usually are. There are only a few manufacturers though for the guts of PSUs, so if you do research there, you’re often able to get the same guts, one time in a dull gray box for 50 bucks, and one time in a stylish black box, with light and sound for 200 bucks :wink:

And here’s what you can approximately expect from a GTX650:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+650&id=2155

Personally I’d try to get a used GTX570 in the bay, or a GTX470, which you’ll get for around 100 Euro easily and is still faster than the 650. Maybe not as modern, not that energy efficient and less memory… but faster for GPU rendering and gaming.

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Thanks for that information, it really does help. I’ll probably go with the 660Ti - not #1, but it is almost the same price as the 650 so it should be worth the extra cash. Also I will go with a 600w power supply, if I only have 1 card that should be plenty.

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here is a killer combo deal if you want to build your own… its a start…

this is Intel(not AMD like the CPU Above)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1128660

Even come with free 2x4GB of RAM :wink: same stuff i have…
(just pick up an extra pack for 16GB total)
G.Skill RipJaws 1600
(i have seen Intel reviews Sandy and Ivy and Intel doesn’t scale that much with higher memory speeds, 1600 is fine)

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Haha, thanks but too late: I just placed my order. Thanks guys for helping me out by avoiding a not so good graphics card. I’m pretty excited :stuck_out_tongue: