I can at times et shooting to be semi-correct and than when I try and edit to acheive final trajectory it goes and messes it all up again. Ive used combination of local on/off, Ive tried rotations on empty (cylinder shoots all jacked up, in wrong directions, uses wrong orientation) list goes on with how fustrated I am. I watched videos amd read articles, but just cannot figure it out. Problems compound when I get 1 empty working than add a second 1. It just goes haywire.