you say on a par? loosing or winning?
and why? that might give a good lead to what can i (try) to improve- don’t say anything about the last line.
you can try it out by downloading the trail
Ugh, why do people continue to do this over and over and over again?
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There’s no “winning or loosing” among render engines. They all have different strengths and weaknesses.
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Cycles and Vred are for different purposes. Cycles is an all-purpose render engine designed for animation while Vred is for automotive visualization, packed with premade carshaders and studio setups. You can’t really compare the two.
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Choose the render engine that fits your purpose. You pointed out that there is a demo available for Vred so I suggest you use it to figure out what you need.
Yeah, enough with these crappy “X vs. Y” threads…
The name of the game is cross-compatibility between sometimes general- and sometimes very special-purpose tools. “No one size fits all,” and that is the entire point. Here we have a special-purpose renderer for cars.
no, i mean, if both were free then which would you choose for “your current project”?
It seems like might become Autodesk’s answer to Keyshot, this means that they’re not making a product to compete with Cycles, but instead competing with other vendors in the product visualization space (where people in that market demand the easiest possible tools and an entire array of pre-made materials).
@1832vinblender compositer and cycles wins. i think it easier to use ,beacuse you have more options,in blender you got to combine things to get this options, i need the .blend to say more ha ha ha
the render with the colums and the porsche didnt look good ,u could get the same render with cycles in 2 min. render time
maybe ui thing get us there with a little bit of patience
That depends heavily on what the “current project” is. My current project requires animated armatures, so no. But even if it were specifically about automotive rendering, i’m not going to stop in the middle of it to start learning a new renderer… At best i’d keep it in mind for a future project.
Can Blender/Cycles do what VRED can? Of course.
But that’s not the point IMHO. The point is: How much time do I need to get the same result? Time is the scarce commodity here and if I’m a freelancer my time is more expensive than anything else.
VRED can directly import:
- 3ds Max (.3ds)
- Alias (.wire)
- ASC Dental (.asc)
- AutoCAD (.dwg, .dxf)
- CATIA (.catpart, .catproduct, .cgr, .dlv, .dlv3, .dlv4, .exp, .mdl, .model, .session)
- Autodesk Inventor (.ipt, .iam)
- Cinema 4D (.c4d)
- Cosmo3D (.csb)
- Deltagen (.rtx)
- FBX (.fbx)
- FHS (.fhs)
- GeomView (.off)
- IGES (.igs)
- JT (.jt)
- Maya (.ma, .mb)
- OpenSG (.osb)
- Open Inventor (.iv)
- PLM XML (.plmxml)
- PLY (.ply)
- Pro/E Granite (.g)
- Pro/E Neutral (.neu)
- Pro/E Render (.slp)
- Python Script (.py)
- Rhinoceros (.3dm)
- Showcase (.apf)
- SolidWorks (.sldprt, .sldasm, .prt, .asm)
- STEP (.stp)
- Stereolithography (.stl)
- VRED (.vpe, .vpb, .vpf)
- VRML (.wrl)
- Wavefront (.obj)
That covers many of the important file formats out there - so no hassle with converters etc. On top of that an extensive library of professional grade materials I only need to slap onto the model. And with prebuilt environments and light setups, which help people without artistic background (techies…) to create aesthetic images.
And now try the same thing in Blender…
If you can get the model into Blender at all (and without shading errors, because Blender spoiled the vertex normals again), you have to either build every material etc. from scratch, or painfully Shift-F1 your way through your old Blender files in hope for a matching set of assets.
Will the final result be superior to VRED’s?
Maybe. But does that justify having spend hours for the setup instead of mere minutes? Don’t get me wrong here, I’m a Blender fan for quite some time now, but I can’t help but notice that Blender still is not much of a pipeline tool… If you do your product designs in any Autodesk product (3ds max, Alias, Inventor, etc.) or deal with customers that do, VRED can be a pretty good investment if you want quick visualizations (BTW, it’s the replacement for Autodesk’s Showcase, isn’t it?).