Dreamweaver


(bmax) #1

With all that MX crap that Macromedia came up with, in addition to rebuilding their site, I am completely disoriented what the current price of Dreamweaver is (an original, of course). Does anybody know? I have a hard time finding out…It used to be ~$300…but now?


(Green) #2

gvim


(Timothy) #3

I use dreamweaver alot, but I probably use editpad pro more than anything, So that does mean manually writing the html, or xhtml, or css, or php…


(mrmunkily) #4

crimson source editor for windows,
nedit on *nix


(valarking) #5

MS Visual Studio. Definatly. Let’s see you make advanced C++ crap with notepad!


(acasto) #6

Bluefish http://bluefish.openoffice.nl
Quanta++ http://quanta.sourceforge.net/
Screem http://www.screem.org


(IMProvisar) #7

Notepad sux. For the past few years, up until they made a commercial version, I always deleted NotePad.exe, put JGSoft’s EditPad in it’s place, and renamed it.

The old EditPad was the best almost free Windows plain text editor I’d ever used. I say “almost” free because it was distributed uncrippled, with no nag messages. The author only asked that you send him a postcard from your area, because he collected them (I bought a whole book and mailed them all, lol). It’s now distributed completely freeware as EditPad Classic (which I still put in place of notepad.exe, in case Windows absolutely wants to open it, hehe). He’s now put out a commercial version (available as download), EditPad Pro. Even better than the first, it includes some more powerful features like a spellchecker and syntax coloring (I actually wrote my own syntax coloring scheme for the MOO programming language). I think there’s a free demo for it, EditPad Lite.

Imp


(PowerMacG4) #8

I see this is a very Windows/Mac geared poll.
Wheres vi, ed, emacs, ftp??
best way to build web is using vi and ftp.
For a site with a lot of Linux usrs and not have vi, ed, emacs or ftp as a tool. Hmm


(Timothy) #9

hmm,… 95% of users are still Internet explorer on windows


(MadMark) #10

www.editplus.com


(haunt_house) #11

personally I stick to codebased editors like first-page together with a decent library of code bits

cannot stand wysiwig

HH


(overextrude) #12

Let’s see you make advanced c++ crap without the ‘visual’. :wink:

In fact, your comment points to a growing trend - M$, with its .NET venture, is aiming to dumb down the process of enterprise system development so that ‘non-technical’ people can do it. That may be a noble goal for as far as M$’ revenue stream is concered, but it puts companies that grow to depend on this (as they’ve grown to depend on Word, Office, etc.) in a very tenuous position, because it creates an even greater degree of dependency. Nasty.

There’s really only one answer: vim and its relatives.


(bmax) #13

besides, i was talking about so-called ‘html editors’ and not compilers.


(basse) #14

pico !

and, if I feel like seeing colors, vim.

.b


(bmax) #15

i think i made a mistake by adding the poll, it distracted you from my initial question, how much dw costs. but its too late now, i found out for myself…

but ive got another q: what was the version # of dw just before mx came out?


(valarking) #16

Let’s see you make advanced c++ crap without the ‘visual’. :wink:

In fact, your comment points to a growing trend - M$, with its .NET venture, is aiming to dumb down the process of enterprise system development so that ‘non-technical’ people can do it. That may be a noble goal for as far as M$’ revenue stream is concered, but it puts companies that grow to depend on this (as they’ve grown to depend on Word, Office, etc.) in a very tenuous position, because it creates an even greater degree of dependency. Nasty.

There’s really only one answer: vim and its relatives.[/quote]

hey man, visual c++ 6.0 is THE compiler to get because of it’s massive amount of support, and only it supports MFC fully. you just have to drop your M$ prejudice first. i agree that visual .NET is… questionable, but vc6 still rocks.

btw, anyone here use the program “textpad”? it’s freakin awesome! starts as fast as notepad, and has more features than any of the above mentioned text editors.


(bmax) #17

what was the version # of dw before mx?


(Eric) #18

Quanta


(bmax) #19

and in english? is it five?


(haunt_house) #20

How can people work with dreamweaver-generated code?

wonders, miracles and marvels…