Dupliverts Question

I am trying to make a forest of pine trees, but using regular dupliverts looks too uniform…is there a python to randomize the size and placement of the trees in dupliverts? I tried SaltShaker, but for some reason it will not work for me, i’m using 2.41.

How about a plane, then fractal it (factor 80 or something) then go to side view and scale z 0 to get the nodes back to the floor. Then use them for duplivert… just an idea

This doesnt change the size but it will radomise the placement…

thanks denshidan! it definitely randomizes placement, and now that i know what the fractal tool is, i can use it for other things in my project.

I still need something to randomize size, but i have a new idea and will test it out…