Female beauty

“I found this article on the web, in the past I had many remarks against public morality and public censorship, I believe by doing away with these public morals that we can find life, liberty and safety. It’s because of public moral that we have terrorist and the only way to win this war is by fighting the culture of morals. Note, I’m also against Internet cencership and I believe that parents are the most likely to contribute to moral terrorism”

What does female beauty have to do with Islamic terrorism?

Plenty:

Baywatch has been the most popular show in Iran for several years now.
Islamic suicide bombers are promised 72 beautiful virgins in heaven if they die for Allah.
Fundamenatalist Islamic regimes force women to cover themselves from head to toe, and commonly execute them on the spot when caught uncovered - even if it’s accidental.
Several of the terrorists who went to their deaths in the Sept 11 jet-bombings spent their last night of life on earth in a strip club.
Pakistani Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups threaten to shoot any woman who goes out in public without full body covering.
6 Nigerian female university students gunned down and killed in fundmanetalist Islamic uprising.
And most recently, a Palestinian suicide bomber kills self and 20 Israeli young people, mostly teenage girls. The fact that these young women were young, attractive, sexy, and enjoying life gives us a real hint as to the true relationship between female beauty and Islamic terrorism.

The War on Women - Part 2

By Dwayne Bell

Petitions are useless. Winning the War on Women will take understanding every idea being used against women and teaching the world and our children better ones. It will require knowledge slightly more sophisticated than knowing how to spell your name.

Part 2 (click here for part 1)

The ideas that lead to the kind of hatred of women we are witnessing in fundamentalist Islamic states these days are like a disease that has caused a serious infection there, but they have gained a strong foothold in every country in the world - even ours.

No, I’m NOT talking about Islam, although Islam is as woman-hating as religions come. I’m talking about hatred of female beauty.

Hatred of women is hatred of beauty. Whenever and wherever women are hated, they are hated for their beauty and sexuality. Only intense hatred of female beauty can cause an entire people to cover every single one of their women from head to toe with sacks, and then beat, abuse, and kill them in the streets or, as in Afghanistan, in public ‘executions’ in sports stadiums — executions the Afghan foreign Minister calls “joyous entertainment”.

Virulent hatred of female beauty like this will continue to spread and grow in all countries around the world unless an ideological antidote is found. That antidote has been available all along although it has been hidden inside one of the oldest mysteries of the universe known to mankind: the mystery of female beauty. In fact, nothing short of a clear and definite answer to the age-old question “What is female beauty?” can stop the tide of hatred towards women we are being slowly submerged under.

Happily, I - and only I - have that answer.

Female beauty is the representation of values. It’s an aesthetic symbol of the values required for life on earth - which means the values of materialism, of health and happiness, of moral character, of benevolence, of sex, of romantic love - in short: of human values. This means that a man loves female beauty only to the extent that he loves life. Osama bin Laden’s spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, proves my point. “There are thousands of the Islamic nation’s youths who are eager to die just as the Americans are eager to live,” he says. Taliban official, Mohammed Hussein Mostassed, agrees. “The Americans are fighting so they can live and enjoy the material things in life,” he says, “But we are fighting so we can die in the cause of God.”

The most blatant proof of the undeniable connection between hatred of objective values and hatred of female beauty came a few weeks ago when a Palestinian suicide bomber strapped explosives to himself, entered the line to an Israeli nightclub, and blew himself up, along with 20 innocent Israeli teenagers - mostly young women. It’s clear that this moron could have picked any group of Israeli’s to send to their deaths, yet he chose to murder mostly attractive young women.

Fundamentalist Islam hates female beauty because it hates life, the earth, and everything that makes life possible and worth living - the very values female beauty so gracefully and naturally represents. It’s no secret that Islamic fundamentalists hate female beauty. Their treatment of women in their various pestholes of countries is one of the worst abominations in recorded history.

On the other hand, America is famous for its unbridled enthusiasm for female beauty and its fair treatment of women. The very concept of women’s rights was pioneered in the U.S. But those who applaud America’s painfully slow invasion of Afghanistan and ensuing ‘freeing’ of women do not understand what is going on here. In fact, if they watch the news, they will see that it is not America who is invading Afghanistan but rather the thugs of the Afghani Northern Alliance, men who have made it quite clear that their only real disagreement with the Taliban was over who should be the ones to brutalize women. This was made painfully clear when they started hitting women with sticks the minute they entered Kabul. Not a good sign. More disheartening still is the fact that the U.S. is no longer in a position to help Afghan women. By choosing to help the Northern Alliance instead of invading Afghanistan themselves in self-defense, the U.S. can no longer claim any military justification for intervening.

We in America love female beauty because we love life and respect values. Or do we?

A 7 year old Vancouver boy points to a magazine cover in a supermarket featuring a scantily clad Penelope Cruz and remarks to his mother, “They shouldn’t be allowed to show that to little kids”. (from letter to editor at Cosmopolitan magazine)

Ask yourself: Where does this little rotter get this idea? Not from Islam, that’s for sure.

Here’s another example. A movie shown to millions of little girls called The HuggaBunch Movie teaches them that wanting to be beautiful is what distinguishes evil ice queens from the rest of us, and that ‘good’ little girls never accept compliments on their looks.

Ask yourself: Is this meant to encourage respect for female beauty, or to destroy it? This movie is as uniquely American as they come.

It’s time for everyone concerned about the well-being of women everywhere to understand that all hatred of women comes from hatred of female beauty, and that hatred of female beauty comes from a hatred of life on earth, and of all human values that make it possible and desirable, and that this hatred is not confined to borders, educational levels, or religions. It is everywhere, all the time.

If women around the world are ever to be free, they must first and foremost be free to be beautiful. In every advanced society it is respect for female beauty which paves the way for women’s rights, not the other way around. And freedom for women to expose their bodies publicly is always found in societies which respect women’s other freedoms as well (ancient Egypt, for example). For the same reason, then, it is the right to be beautiful which is always taken away from women before their other rights. It is the only way.

For example, the Taliban in Afghanistan, perhaps the worst violator of women’s rights ever to exist on earth, forced women to cover themselves from head to toe with just a screen to breathe and see through, and then, only when this was accomplished, did thay take away the rest of their women’s rights. In Iran, another of the worst violators, women voluntarily covered up. Then, without the civilizing, value-orienting, humanizing effects of their beauty, their government took away their jobs, their access to medical care, and the rest of their rights. Now they are dying and being killed by the thousands.

It is easy to see that in these countries, female beauty will have to be accepted and admired again before women will ever be allowed to go out in public without being covered up. Beauty will have to be revered before women and girls are allowed to go to school, or to be doctors, or teachers or engineers. It is the same for any country on earth, in any time or place, even ours. Make no mistake, the efforts being made in our country to dirty our views of female beauty are meant to do the same thing they have done wherever such efforts have been successful. They are meant to do nothing less than facilitate the erosion of women’s rights in our part of the world as a precursor to abusing and butchering women themselves. This is the inevitable goal of anyone who hates life and the values that make it worth living, in any country, in any age.

Conclusion

It is time for anyone who loves a woman or who loves women in general to fight for beauty. Fight against the political corruption that says forcing women to cover up is just a cultural difference. Fight against any religion that says female beauty is evil. Fight the current cultural trends in our countries that teaches children that female beauty is superficial, corruptive, unfair, dangerous, and deadly.

But the only way to fight evil ideas like these is with better ideas. Body in Mind has these ideas. Body in Mind is the only resource we know of dedicated to teaching the ideas which foster understanding of the true nature and goodness of female beauty. Considering the urgency with which these ideas are needed, we have compiled a short study list which features several of our pages which deal with this subject for those who are interested.

We invite everyone to read these pages at length and to discuss them with your friends and family.

Yes, Body in Mind has naked women on it. We all know what a world without naked women looks like, don’t we, and what to do to get it. (Ask Bin Laden if you need some pointers.)

Here’s an idea: Instead of sending your friends a futile petition that serves only to flatter your virtue’s vanity, send them a page or two from Body in Mind. Teach them the ‘secret’ of female beauty so they can discover the reason it is so hated. Help them see that fighting for female beauty is fighting for human values. There’s a war on women raging. Be brave. Send a few salvos of your own in their defense. But this will take more than knowing how to spell your name.

Here are some links to pages that address some of the more important ideas about female beauty that will have to be learned before the world’s women will be safe. Send a URL below to anyone you think might care about the hatred and institutionalized butchery of women in Islamic countries. Ultimately, it will do more good than any petition ever could.

Does female beauty cause anorexia and eating disorders? No. Curing Anorexia

Does female beauty, in the form of pornography, cause violence against women? No. A Feminist Overview of Pornography, Ending in a Defense Thereof

Does female beauty have anything to do with a woman’s character? Yes. The Most Beautiful Woman in The World

Female beauty is women’s one true power. Women’s True Power

Is Christianity better than Islam? No. Sermon on the Mount

Do advanced societies allow female toplessness or deny it? Titsincommon

Is there anything moral about female beauty? The Sphinx

What is the connection between societies which butcher women, and serial killers who do it? Sunshine or Sex Crimes

Can female beauty ever be defined objectively? Yes. An Objective Definition of Female Beauty

What can I do politically to help women being butchered in Islamic countries? Looking Evil in the Eye

http://www.bodyinmind.com/December23,2001.htm

OMG, I thought my posts were long.

I think censorship must exist everywhere including on the internet. Should a website be allowed to host images or live streaming movies of child abuse, no.

I think (correct me if I’m wrong) the point you’re trying to get across is that sexual suppression leads to anger and hatred of more open societies. This I agree with. I think we can all learn from Amsterdam.

It’s fairly popular in a lot of places though. I’m sure hardcore porn would knock it off the top spot. All it proves is sexual suppression exists in Iran.

The ideas that lead to the kind of hatred of women we are witnessing in fundamentalist Islamic states these days are like a disease that has caused a serious infection there, but they have gained a strong foothold in every country in the world - even ours.

I disagree, I don’t see hatred of women in the UK or US.

Hatred of women is hatred of beauty. Whenever and wherever women are hated, they are hated for their beauty and sexuality

Nope, I hate feminists and they are generally not beautiful.

Female beauty is the representation of values. This means that a man loves female beauty only to the extent that he loves life.

Nope, I hate life but I love female beauty.

Osama bin Laden’s spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, proves my point. “There are thousands of the Islamic nation’s youths who are eager to die just as the Americans are eager to live,” he says. Taliban official, Mohammed Hussein Mostassed, agrees. “The Americans are fighting so they can live and enjoy the material things in life,” he says, “But we are fighting so we can die in the cause of God.”

The Islamic followers are willing to die because they believe they will get 72 virgins - which isn’t that great in eternity anyway because they’ll run out pretty quick. The Americans don’t fight for material goods but for life itself and freedom from oppression because they believe that life is there for a reason otherwise why are we here at all? Islamic followers don’t want to accept the flaws in life and so denounce its importance. I feel a similar way but I don’t believe I have the right to take someone else’s life just because I devalue my own - they apparently do. They are wankers.

It’s clear that this moron could have picked any group of Israeli’s to send to their deaths, yet he chose to murder mostly attractive young women.

Could have just been where he was. If he was standing near the ladies toilet, then it’s likely he would kill more women. Not necessarily on purpose.

Fundamentalist Islam hates female beauty because it hates life, the earth, and everything that makes life possible and worth living - the very values female beauty so gracefully and naturally represents.

I don’t think they hate female beauty but the opposite. They revere it so much that rapists who abuse the sacred innocence of a women are hanged. It’s western civilisation which devalues the beauty of women with prostitution, porn and pitifully small sentences passed to rapists and child molestors.

Here’s another example. A movie shown to millions of little girls called The HuggaBunch Movie teaches them that wanting to be beautiful is what distinguishes evil ice queens from the rest of us, and that ‘good’ little girls never accept compliments on their looks.

Ask yourself: Is this meant to encourage respect for female beauty, or to destroy it? This movie is as uniquely American as they come.

I think it’s meant to encourage the ideology that beauty is not important but what’s inside that counts - it doesn’t make people respect or disrespect beauty but rather disregard it.

If women around the world are ever to be free, they must first and foremost be free to be beautiful. In every advanced society it is respect for female beauty which paves the way for women’s rights, not the other way around. And freedom for women to expose their bodies publicly is always found in societies which respect women’s other freedoms as well (ancient Egypt, for example).

Not sure if that’s true. I’m pretty sure that women were used as concubines and made to cook the Turkish Delight (or whatever they ate) in Egypt too.

Beauty will have to be revered before women and girls are allowed to go to school, or to be doctors, or teachers or engineers.

No, I disagree again. I think in Western civilisation beauty was revered and respected but they still couldn’t be doctors or teachers etc. until women’s rights came along, which had nothing to do with beauty.

It is time for anyone who loves a woman or who loves women in general to fight for beauty. Fight against the political corruption that says forcing women to cover up is just a cultural difference. Fight against any religion that says female beauty is evil. Fight the current cultural trends in our countries that teaches children that female beauty is superficial, corruptive, unfair, dangerous, and deadly.

Forcing women to cover up is a cultural difference. The women can leave if they want or die trying. Beauty is superficial by definition but I don’t think it’s taught as dangerous or deadly (unless looks can kill hehehe). Corruptive and unfair it is. Beauty corrupts the minds of the sexually suppressed into committing violent acts. Beauty is unfair because not everyone is beautiful and it seems to be dealt out at random.

We invite everyone to read these pages at length and to discuss them with your friends and family.

At length?!? You can say that again.

Yes, Body in Mind has naked women on it.

Hmmm, I think I know what this petition is about. Yes, I too would love it if all beautiful women walked around starkers but it ain’t gonna happen.

I think censorship must exist everywhere including on the internet. Should a website be allowed to host images or live streaming movies of child abuse, no.

I think (correct me if I’m wrong) the point you’re trying to get across is that sexual suppression leads to anger and hatred of more open societies. This I agree with. I think we can all learn from Amsterdam.

In my opinion only if its not sold, the idea of making such a wide spread of unmoral western image illegal will only cause a increase of kidnapping and abuse of children, to outlaw such a thing can be access pretty much anywhere on the Internet will create a market with the supplies and demands. I also believe that kidnap and “illegally exposed” children that can be view by the majority of all will make the process of finding “Illegal exploited” children and the ones that commit the crime easier and faster.

The other downside of this so called censorship would lead to the absent of civil liberty. The law makers will use this as a wedge to take away the liberty of everyone and to hide the abuse and anger the majority to gain more authority. John Ashcroft was the perfect example, first it be child porn, then virtue child porn, then animated child models, then drawings, then comic books, then petite women then women and men with shave crotch, then men and women opposed in diapers, then child nudity, teen nudist camp and then baby photos, kids in certain pose or swimsuits then hallmark Valentine cards and paintings of nude babys in a church. Now don’t say it won’t happen because we know damn well the history and abuse of authority itself.

Next point is the different of culture and what every "Country, State, City and tribe consider consenting adult. The Age of Consent isn’t the same world wide, yet what you see as children others will see consenting adults. Example, the Philippines a male of age 12 can have sex with women 18 and over, however the consent on the female is at age of 18, so women won’t be allow to sleep with men 18 and older. I do agree with this, because I remember my child hood and believe that such a encounter will be a benefit if it remains disease free. In my opinion not having sex at a early age for some, may lead to something more damaging, such as bestility, not all young male have access to girls there own age to explore such passion so they are tempted to go a different route and go for the family pet. This path may lead to greater guilt later in life.

Now you may notice I use the term “Illegally exploited” children. Thats because childporn was once consider legal in some countries with the consent of an adult and may be clearly be grown up by now. The question I would also like to raise, is should it only be illegal till the person in the picture reach the Age of Consent ? While I do believe the answer is yes, it’s because the person in the photo will be a legal consenting adult and they would have the maturity to decide if they wish to pass them out themself.

Now while you may think it “might” be use to encourage kids to do something criminal another concern I have is it may be use to hide criminal activity in the government. No one would ever know if they put a “label” on such information to terrorize the public not to see the information itself.

I also need to point out the bias of your logic. Sex before marriage was illegal because it was, “Conservative belief” that women weren’t able to consent to sex, because they had no sexual desires. It took researchers that went against the moral norm of the government, to expose the truth that women do have sexual desires. The other flaw you have is that kids are only consenting when it comes to murder, why couldn’t it be the same for sex ? You may say that it shouldn’t but will only lead children to comment crime with out punishment and are used by mobs to create crime such as the Italian Mafia do in Italy.

Also, you have to ask yourself, are kids capable of making sexual image and send them out themself ? My answer is yes, so why are the ones that comes across it are punish and how would anyone know the content of such image until they download it in the first place ? Even without knowing it may still be illegal because you download it in the first place.

Even if there were a limit it could be a zip and a government official can download and log before you even have a chance to notice it’s a zip file that contains Hundreds of child pornagaphy. Hell, I even got a warning from the RIAA on P2P network and didn’t even notice it was a music CD copy until I open it.

The last point I would like to make is don’t people have the right to see the injustice of inhuman rights that goes on in a foreign land ? Image of mass genocide and the abuse at the American Iraq prison could be illegalize simply because it contains illegal content ? What if its a image of a child being abuse by a political authority ? And special interest group target the person that try expose the truth by making available to everyone ? The organization for human rights encourage you to have a camcorder on hand to expose the abuse, wouldn’t that alone be worth the legalization of all content ?

You have to ask yourself what is the proof of consenting adult, well from what I see from junk science, there is none and it may be the view of society itself that may cause the most harm to the individual not the act itself “Depending on how extent the act is” of course.

Note that zoophilia is consider just as bad but they are still legal in most of Europe.

As for this point of view, they are feminist but considering there point of view they don’t seem to be socialist but more of a right or left libertarian feminist. I admit this is off topic but I am nearly replying to a comment. I do believe in private censorship and I think it’s better over all then this government on top and the people salutes them.

One more thing, I don’t think complete nudity is safe, because of certain disease, but I think the bare breast should be legal for women as well.

I do concur!

I sort of agree with you there and I think the authorities too feel that paying for images of abuse is worse than obtaining the images without paying because you aren’t creating a profitable demand. Also, I think that wide spread availability of it would lead to less sexual offenses involving children. Mostly you find that when something is considered illegal, more people want to do it because it gives them excitement knowing they are doing wrong.

It’s hard to know where to draw the line though because different people are affected differently by certain types of media. Normally the people who will want to see images of abuse have a sadistic albeit hidden side to their personality and finding acceptance of it feeds that sadism. As I say, not everyone’s like that but which is the lesser evil of the two? I think the present system is.

But it won’t happen. Civil liberties aren’t being eroded because Western civilisation is open and if anything is becoming less oppressive all the time. Boundaries are being crossed all over the place. There are actually very few things that are illegal. From observing current trends I see no evidence of regression to oppression of civil liberties.

Hmmm, I sort of agree again in that I wish I had more sex when I was younger. However, I remember some of the girls I would have slept with then and I would regret it now. But there is no way that lack of sex would ever lead me to take a fancy to the family pet - please tell me you’re not confessing something to us.

The thing is, sex is not illegal when you’re young. If two 9 year olds have consensual sex, neither will be arrested.

Well, that’s a difficult one because although there is the possibility that the adult might consent later on, there is no way of knowing that when they were young. So the sexual act and documentation thereof is still happening without consent and that’s when the most damage is done.

What?? You’re not seriously suggesting that women had no sexual attraction to men before the government told them so. It was never the case that sexual desire didn’t exist but that those feelings had to be suppressed in the interest of public decency.

That’s a good point. It does seem a bit hypocritical to say that a child holds responsibility for their criminal actions from the age of 8 (I think) but cannot hold responsibility for sexual advances until 16 or so.

I agree with you on this one. The authorities and the general public are very closed minded on things of this nature. Like the whole thing about Pete Townsend who downloaded like 1 image of child pornography for research. Ok, he did pay for it which was wrong but then how else could he see it?

One of the most ironic things I think about society is that on TV and in magazines we forever see the sexualisation of young people. I’ve read that children even have thongs with sexually explicit phrasing on them. But despite all this attitude, parents and the general public are surprised when there are so many child sex crimes.

Again that’s true, but I think child abuse runs the risk of sexually gratifying people by showing it. I doubt things like genocide would turn many people on.

According to the government voting system anything from apathy to explicit consent could be considered proof of consent. Sexual consent is very difficult to prove. I personally think it’s down to an individual but general consensus shows that the majority can be safer by using a common age of consent based on trends of sexual and intellectual development.

That’s one thing I never really understood. You never hear of people being arrested for possessing images of bestiality and indeed there are websites all over the place with media containing it but then child porn is equally illegal but is treated completely differently.

I still don’t think that censorship should be abolished because if we break down all barriers, then people who don’t know better get out of control. That sort of thing is happening in Iraq. The people have lived in such an oppressive society for so long that with the new Western freedom some think they can run riot.

If you open the doors for child porn then you ease in sex with children against their consent and then maybe children having sex with animals, maybe even child murder for sexual gratification. The current boundaries that exist will never grow to suppress civil liberties but the erosion of the boundaries would do a lot of damage especially in a society that has lived with those boundaries for so long.

I don’t think complete nudity is unsafe, after all naturists don’t have that complaint. Anyway, I prefer the bottom half to the top half so bare breasts alone wouldn’t do it for me.



Honestly, I didn’t read the whole thread, but I would just like to throw in the idea that that is not neccessarily what women want. I know girls that are very modest and recognize their own beauty. They not only don’t feel comfortable in anything revealing, it bothers them to see others in skimpy clothes. They are saving their bodies for their husbands, and I just hope that men would save themselves for them as well.

Are there any women on this forum to weigh in on this topic?

Are you a girl?
Honestly, I take anything about how girls are supposed to feel from a guy with a grain of salt.


valarking, I’m no girl, and I never said what they should do. I said that I know some girls that I respect a lot, that are great role models, and are full of integrity and intelligence. This is how they feel (and I feel it’s good) and it’s coming straight from them. Please read my posts more carefully in the future.

And as a further comment, I do see the great beauty of women. But many men tend to focus on that and that alone, degrading the women to eye candy and denying their intrinsic human value. Personally, I hate being distracted by provocatively dressed females, because it makes me look past who they really are. They are beautiful, but they have beautiful minds too.

I’m not pushing this belief on anyone, so don’t get all bent out of shape. I’m stating my opinion.

What you say is true for some of the women around, but you come over to my high school and if anyone here feels like that, they are hiding it way down.

Sometimes I wonder why I post. Often people seem to not acknoledge my opinions. Why do people rarely reply to what I say? Is it because I often write too much? Or is it because nothing could be said against my logical reasoning? Am I being avoided?

Waffler, I actually know how you feel. There is one forum I go to where all my posts in one section of it are entirely ignored EVERY TIME. I just don’t post there anymore.

Sometimes I wonder why I post. Often people seem to not acknoledge my opinions. Why do people rarely reply to what I say? Is it because I often write too much? Or is it because nothing could be said against my logical reasoning? Am I being avoided?

It’s a couple things, I think, happening at the moment. First of all, long posts are daunting and many people want to chat, not read a thesis. Break it down, get to the point. I know it’s hard to take things out, but it’s just better to compress it. Second, if you want response so bad, shake things up. From what I read of your posts, you didn’t really rock the boat much. Unfortunately, offending people is the best way to get attention. :-? No one needs to argue against it, and sometimes people to bother posting “I hear that, brother.”

Don’t be hurt by it.

P.S. Censorship, not sensorship. I don’t personally mind a whole lot, but it can turn people off from listening to you if they think you don’t know what your talking about. It’s only spelling, but hey, such is life.

Well, I just post this to explain my behavior in the pass, didn’t mean to have it go any further then this, if this was some other forum we would all be accuse of justifying by the point of view and agreements. I’m surprise myself to see so many with self thought and not be influenced with there morals and emotions. For some reason I don’t feel comfortable explaining such thought even thoe it’s mine.

Waffler, I decided to give you a comment. :smiley: On the topic of familiarity with nudity decreasing the sexual arousal of the sight, I’d like to say that that has been a biblical teaching in a sense. Nudity was fine until shame entered the scene. Now we’re in too deep to do anything. To start to go back to skin would simply not work in the modern world. Only a small minority of people would be comfortable naked in public and the rest would strongly oppose their nudity. Conservatives will always be there. While it may seem good in theory at first glance, the concept would be ultimately destructive to society. It just can’t work.

Besides, I live in Minnesota. For me at least, being nude outdoors is out of the question. Mosquitos, snow, poison ivy. Ouch. And can you imagine public places? Do you even want to sit on something that someone’s naked bum has been on? What about little kids and incontinents (I think that’s the spelling and word for the term for people without bladder control)? And when you accidently sit in something? :o

Like I said, topples not completely nude for “HEALTH” reasons. Your opinion of going back to nude is very shadowing, because a large majority of Christians in South America women are nude and they aren’t bother with it. Not including France, Spain, Japan “No tv censorship” and Philippines. The bible prove to be ashamed of nudity is a sin not to cover your nakedness. If you have no shame of nakedness like Adam and Eve had “BEFORE” they ate the forbidding fruit. Then wouldn’t that mean you are less likely with out sin ? Besides, there’s no AOC in the bible either, so does that not mean you can be married at any age like in Islam ?

Correction, I think the AOC in Koran is 8