I do not remember seeing this question asked here before.
I want to clarify that, by drugs, I mean those drugs that are not yet legalized on an international level. Marijuana, LSD, cocaine…you get the idea. I also understand that some of these drugs have important medicinal properties. I am refering to recreational, and or, spritual usage.
This post is not meant to start a flame war…but hopefully a reasonable, open- minded and intelligent discussion of the topic.
First thing, you can not just group drugs together like that. When it comes to even the issue of legalization, there is a big difference between something like pot and cocaine.
There can be a good argument for the legalization of marijuana, but not for other drugs such as barbituates, amphetamines, methamphetamines, and hallucinogens. Now I do agree with medical uses where necessary. I currently depend on amphetamines to keep me stable, so I would know about it. But the general legalization of such drugs would be devastating. For those who say otherwise, do not know the nature of the substance. Take crack and cocaine for example, the user does make their own decision on whether or not to do it, the first time. The drugs then cause the levels of dopamine in the brain to be raised to a level beyond the pleasure threshold, thus the high. But there is a problem here, the dopamine can not be taken back up, and the dopamine producing brain cells are permanently damaged. But because the pleasure threshold was reached, they want and need more.
Marijuana is much different on many levels, although still dangerous as to the users behavior. But then again so can be with alcohol. But almost all the other substance even and especially including drugs such as extacy which is touted as being realtively safe, is too dangerous to even think about legalizing.
Drugs kill!!!
So, I suppose the answer is pretty much obvious: I am against…
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I agree on that, but you must also consider that in most cases Marijuana, is just the first step towards “harder” drugs… Most cocaine, heroine, etc. addicts, started with Marijuana…</EDIT>
Humans kill, not drugs.
From my point of view: it should not be legalized, because we as humans can’t stand the instant happiness by a pill or alcohol.
For hallucinogens, try it out and what you may find can be very useful (at least for me)
Drugs can be used, but not alone (or for medical reasons). A lot of people take the wrong turn because they don’t think and talk about the use of drugs.
It’s very individual, and i don’t think we could handle legalization.
Cheap cliche
There is no instant happiness, just sensations
Also an extremely overused excuse
Dosn’t make sense, needs explanation
Unless it is with a doctor about a medical need, then they are taking a wrong turn period. Thinking and talking about the use of a drug for non-medical purposes is merely self-justification and an excuse to do it.
Medical reasons are very individual, drug use is not because it affects society. But you are right, we could not handle legalization.
Drugs is bad hmmmkay?
I’ve seen enough kids dead, from overdose… I won’t change my mind… Drugs kill…
From my point of view: it should not be legalized, because we as humans can’t stand the instant happiness by a pill or alcohol.
People can handle happyness allright… The problem is, that in the case of drugs, happyness doesn’t last long… It’s only a matter of time, when the “happy dreams” will turn to “nightmare”…
For hallucinogens, try it out and what you may find can be very useful (at least for me)
It is said, that hallucinogens, release people’s creativity, if that’s what you mean… I don’t know for sure, if this is true or not, but in my opinion someone who’s using them with such purpose, is like signing a contract with the devil…
You’ll certainly benefit from it, but at the cost of your own soul!!!
While this thread is loaded with opinions, it is short on facts. It speaks of ‘drugs’ as some abstract, diabolical entity. And where is the mention of: alchohol, caffeine, tobbacco, etc., not to mention perscription drugs. I take drugs. Very hard ones. If I didn’t take them, I would be in agony from pain on a constant basis, and instead of sitting here blending something, I would likely be doubled over in fetal position, puking my guts out. So to this rampant condemnation of drugs, I say “pish posh”.
I would also like to add, that this thread appears to be a continuation of Qwerts earlier outburst in a slightly different form, and is in poor taste.
If you read closely, you’ll see the specific seperation of medical and recreational uses.
I have stated facts, though many will have no idea what in the world the “reuptake of dopamine” is. Also to be noted, is the difference in composition between medical drugs and other legal substances such as caffeine, and illegal street drugs.
Also, substances such as caffeine and alcohol are not part of the decision of legalization. They can however be used to look up for statistics and informational purposes. But overall in the immediate discussion they are quite irrelevant.
Here’s a question for you,…: What seperates a thread that is a simple discussion, from one that is simply an expression of intolerance? Answer is: AGENDA. If one feels the need to preach, an apple crate and a street corner is a more appropriate choice IMO.
I am still waiting to see an intelligent reply to this question supporting the use of drugs for recreational purposes. I have to say that I am not surprised.
I, myself, am against the use of these drugs…whatever the justifications.
Modron…Why does there have to be an agenda ? Open discussion, that is all. I am very willing to hear other opinions on the matter, and I have no intention of preaching. I have no 2000 word retalliation waiting. I know my own opinions. I would like to hear others.
You expressed your desire to continue it in the bong thread. Your timing suggests that they are related. Please don’t B.S. me. Not nice. tch tch. Here’s a note concerning apologies for you…: “I’m sorry.” is an apology. “I’m sorry, but…” is not.
In case this includes me as well…
This is not my “AGENDA”, this is my opinion… And I demand my opinion to be treated the way it should… You can either agree with it, or present facts that say, I’m wrong and nobody dies from drugs like cocaine, etc… But telling me to take an apple crate and pick another “corner” to “preach”, is a sign of disrespect…
I am opposed to the use of drugs for “recreational” purposes and I have very good reasons for doing so…
I see my “reasons” every morning, while driving to the hospital, I work… Young kids, with their brains totally “fried” by the use of such substances… Wonderful kids, that are turned to beggers, just to get their next dose, from people that value money more than human life…
Every time I see them, I know that it won’t take long till they’ll bring them to me, covered by white sheets…
I’ve got kids and I’m worried about their future…
I won’t be silenced on that, even if I am to be accused of “preaching”…
Besides, I didn’t start this thread…
I know, Timonides, and I am not trying to devalue your opinion. I just wish Q’b after having offended this guy, would have the good grace to let it be, at least for a longer time period than 24 hours. My remarks were pretty well directed to that end. I think we should leave this thread alone for now.
Then, I suppose I must apollogize for my behavior… :-?
Sorry Modron, for being such a fool… 
I will just let this topic die…
No need for apologies, Timonides. My words were poorly chosen, and I should have read the replys more carefully before submitting my own. So, I apologize as well. (btw tim, I also used to work in a hospital. amazing what some people will do to themselves.)
I use drugs now and then with my friends instead of drinking myself to oblivion. Because we know and trust each other, drugs open up parts that we would normally not discuss (it won’t even cross our minds).
Drugs don’t help me be more creative and they won’t make me a better man.
But if you haven’t tried it where are you judging about. Afraid of what you may encounter about the world or yourself?
Modron, you don’t have to apologize about anything…
I’m afraid of death…
Sadly, there’s nothing left for me to encounter anymore, besides that…
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I am still waiting to see an intelligent reply to this question supporting the use of drugs for recreational purposes.
You don’t need any specific reply. The collective tone of the responses so far would be a good recomendation for the soothing company of Mary Jane.
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