game engine improvements


(sara) #1

after reading this

i am thinking what other things you would like to see in the future. from small details like making the interface darker to having network support.

having moveable logic bricks like virtools would be a good start.

also, who is programing and playing with the blender source, specially the game engine code? it would be nice to send them our requests to see what they can do.


(gargola) #2

i agree with Sara! :smiley:


(S_W) #3

yes, good idea! :slight_smile:


(Pooba) #4

I’m too lazy to download that huge 2 meg .pdf file…

why do they have to use those?! What’s wrong with plain html?

I like your idea though

Pooba


(sara) #5

so what do you guys think?
what would you change, add, remove from the game engine?

the physics engine is changing for sure though.
what about the interface? being able to move logic bricks around would be nice.


(Pooba) #6

I’d like a duplicate sensor or acuator within the object, so you could make a duplicate of one sensor and just change one thing. Making about 20 property sensors and having to go add, change it to property, stick in the name, and finally the value, is really anoying. It’d be nice if i could just make a bunch of copies and just change the value.

Pooba


(z3r0 d) #7

The stuff in the proposal was nice (see my post on blender.org for more of my comments on it), but there are a couple major problems

It is difficult to turn something like “make aibot[n] follow the terrain to get to waypoint[p]” into code (likely c) that will work for most terrain meshes … It was implied (loudly?) that this could be done

Oh, and more python control would be nice. I would like to see Blender.BGL not be sandboxed (so that I may use glViewport), but I can see the security issues.

Maybe what is needed is ways to have
a) multiple cameras in use in a single scene
b) viewport control (where in the window the things are rendered to)

This would allow split screens (and MechWarrior 3 like zoom-windows)

Is it possible to access individual ipo elements in run-time python? (ColR, ColA … don’t seem accessable other than through an ipo actuatior) If not it could be useful


(Rotwang) #8

One feature I’d love to see would be the ability to add dynamic weather(ie rain, fog, etc) and day/night cycles to games.

I thought of an interesting system that could possibly be used to do this, actually…

If you built a model of a game world, and gave it regular, pre-render-type materials and textures with specularity, radiosity etc, could you have a system which pre rendered each face of this fully and isometrically, camera perpendicular to each face, ie with all the pre-render effects that the game engine can’t do, then converted all of the images produced into UV textures and applied them to the object ready for use in the game engine?

One upshot of this would be that you could very easily then animate a sun lamp and stuff, and automatically make an animated texture for the whole level, to do day/night lighting, etc.

I don’t know if anyone would find this useful or not, but it is, I think you’ll agree, an interesting idea.

Comments, anyone?


(doogs) #9

Weather can already be done as is. Check out pooland by Saluk.

:slight_smile:

doogs


(saluk) #10

http://mysite.iptic.com/spinhead/archives/Poolandalpha1.0.zip

It’s kind of slow and the lighting is a bit weird. Having the whole scene realtime lit probably slows it down a lot, and using uv animation would be a pretty neat effect:) The easiest and best way to animatie the ground though would be the way I animated the sky: color ipos. You can start at white, then as it gets late go down to black, then go back up.

Anyway, theres a lot of things I would love fixed. Here’s my top 10 blender fixes in no particular order:

  • More advanced rendering engine with different methods of culling, options for bsp rendering, etc
  • Speed improvements such that generating 500 super simple objects doesn’t kill blender
  • Realtime access to everything from python. And I mean EVERYTHING
  • Better realtime action support
  • Putting python elsewhere than a controller
  • The ability to do advanced realtime techniques such as shown in current games: bumpmapping, reflections, and real shadows
  • More physics options, more collision detection shapes
  • Being able to load external textures, music, models
  • More sound file support: mods, midi
  • Prettier lighting
    [/list]

(sara) #11

i vote too for

Speed improvements such that generating 500 super simple objects doesn’t kill blender.

we cant have many enemies on screen.
and maybe the ability to “compile” logic bricks to python so they run fast or something that makes them faster.

Prettier lighting

and one that doenst make bizarre things.

and

The ability to do advanced realtime techniques such as shown in current games: bumpmapping, reflections, and real shadows

which could be controlled though sliders etc, very nvidia like.

also…what about canned fx that can be changed with variables, sliders etc.

for example explosions, random effects, more or less like the AVS thing in winamp. you cant make those kind of effects without killing blender speed.

in that order.