Geforce 4s


(blackphoto) #1

I hear Geforce 5 cards will be out around Christmas. So I may buy an older GeF-4 Ti. Has anyone had trouble with Gef-4 Ti cards? I heard there was an issue with lightwave somewhere.


(PowerMacG4) #2

From what I heard top end Geforce3 cards are best.


(LethalSideP) #3

Erm…GeForce 4 Ti 4***s are much better in just about every area. You might be getting confused with GeForce 4 MXs (which are roughly as powerful as a GeForce 2), but the Ti4***s are much better than a GeForce 3. Not to say that GeForce 3s are bad, mind you (worked like a charm on mine…), but the 4 Tis are faster, some have more/faster memory, higher clock speeds, and more of those all important pixel shaders.


(mrmunkily) #4

my gf4mx aint bad… havent tried blender on it though.


(Green) #5

I run a gf4 4200ti at school and a gf4 420mx at home. both work just great.

Tried them with maya ut2003 quake3 blender battlefield 1942 so far.


(Zweistein) #6

Yes, greebn is right. I have a geforce 4 ti 42000 at home. Everything runs good.


(ben999995) #7

get a radeon 9700 or the cheaper verison 9000 they rock. The radeon should be pretty cheap by the time the gf’5 come out


(blackphoto) #8

I was told raedon are not as good as GeForce at OpenGl.


(Timothy) #9

the radeon’s are perfect for games


(ben999995) #10

if you were going to buy a video card at the moment get a radeon 9000 or 9700 or wait until the gf5’s come out and see if they are any good.


(LethalSideP) #11

The problem with ATUI cards (like the Radeon) is that they’re mainly designed around DirectX. All very well and good for gamers, but for us Arts peeps who use OpenGL in Blender for example, it’s not so good. Granted, it can do OpenGL, but it’s implementation is meant to be dodgy at the least. NVidia support both GL & DirectX in their cards outstandingly.

ATI’s driver support is not meant to be a patch on NVidias, either (no pun intended!).

LethalSideParting


(ben999995) #12

what about martoxs (thinks thats the right name) new card. Thats should be good for artist/animators.


(Bapsis) #13

I want a GF4!!! :frowning:

Come to think of it, i want a whole new computer. A 60’z black and white television would be an upgrade from my computer!!! hehe :wink:

Matt

Blend on, and blend well!!!


(ben999995) #14

lol don’t do it bring back 3dfx :o


(shibbydude) #15

The problem with ATUI cards (like the Radeon) is that they’re mainly designed around DirectX. All very well and good for gamers, but for us Arts peeps who use OpenGL in Blender for example, it’s not so good. Granted, it can do OpenGL, but it’s implementation is meant to be dodgy at the least. NVidia support both GL & DirectX in their cards outstandingly.

Get an ATI 9000 series card. All the talk about OpenGL not being supported is pure bull (sorry, you were missinformed). And, unless you have had any recent experience with ATI then I suggest that you do not badmouth their cards. I have never read an official document that says that ATI’s GL support is “dodgy”. In fact, ATI even holds a spot on an OpenGL standards commitee. All Radeon cards conform perfectly to the GL standards just as well as the NVidia cards, plus sometimes ATI’s produce a better overall experience and a better price. Now, that being said, the Ti4* is a very nice card. But consider this: I use an ATI 7200 card with 32mb ram and a PII450. With this setup that some people would consider, no make that all people would consider somewhat dated, I still get complete OpenGL support and a great Blendering experience. As for the NVidia cards at the time I bought this card I cannot say that they would give complete GL support and performance. Just please, take this real information and don’t continue the flamewar :)! Oh, and don’t kill the whales.[/quote]


(9) #16

I read a couple of very extensive tests about Matrox’ new Parhelia. To stay euphemistic I’d say that this card hasn’t reached maturity yet!
In the test they compared with GF4 Ti series, which were more than head an shoulders above.
A problem of driver tuning, as it’s said. Considering the price of the stuff, wait the GF5 release and buy a GF4 Ti***** after X-mas. That’ is waht I will do (if Santa put some pretty money in my sock!)

c-ya’ll

Hughes


(Pablosbrain) #17

I have an original ati Radeon All-In-Wonder and it works great… the newest 9700 is one of the first 3 cards in the market to support all of directX9 features. Geforce 4 cards don’t. And I don’t know about the GF5 by christmas. If they haven’t announced it yet… I doubt it will make it. But the ATI 9700 smokes a Geforce 4. The 9000 not so much… go to tomshardware.com to check for reviews and technical information. I’m planning on buying an ati9700 soon… I may even order it today… who knows.


(LethalSideP) #18

Get an ATI 9000 series card. All the talk about OpenGL not being supported is pure bull (sorry, you were missinformed). And, unless you have had any recent experience with ATI then I suggest that you do not badmouth their cards. I have never read an official document that says that ATI’s GL support is “dodgy”. In fact, ATI even holds a spot on an OpenGL standards commitee. All Radeon cards conform perfectly to the GL standards just as well as the NVidia cards, plus sometimes ATI’s produce a better overall experience and a better price. Now, that being said, the Ti4* is a very nice card. But consider this: I use an ATI 7200 card with 32mb ram and a PII450. With this setup that some people would consider, no make that all people would consider somewhat dated, I still get complete OpenGL support and a great Blendering experience. As for the NVidia cards at the time I bought this card I cannot say that they would give complete GL support and performance. Just please, take this real information and don’t continue the flamewar ! Oh, and don’t kill the whales.

Sorry Shibbydude, all that I said didn’t quite come out as I meant it. I meant no disrespect :frowning:

I have tried both ATI and NVidia, and I feel that NVidia’s driver support is much better than NVidia’s. I always had real driver issues with our ATI card (maybe it was just the card, come to think of it… it was pretty old :wink: ). But with NVidia, never a single problem.

And as for the DirectX vs OpenGL comment I made, I read in ‘3DWorld’ that ATI have always focused on DirectX performance (sometimes at the expence of GL), and that the Radeon was no exception. It was when they were doing a big graphics card roundup in an article about how to build the perfect 3D workstation. I’m not knocking ATI’s experience in the 3D industry - far from it, I have the greatest respect for them. Their DirectX performance can’t be knocked. And they do have good OpenGl support, yes, and it does run things like Blender very well, there’s no doubt about it. It’s just that my experience with NVidia was much better than ATI.

I guess it’s just personal tastes, like Windows vs Linux, Marmite vs Sun Pat, etc. Let’s just call it peace, OK? :wink:

LethalSideParting


(DreamMaster) #19

geez, don’t get ATI card! I have ATI card… Blender is ok, but sometimes I’ll experience fatal error because of OpenGL…

And the buttons, etc. is slow with my card.

Buy Geforce instead. I’m planning to get Geforce 4 or something myself soon.