HELP with linux!

pleas can some one help me i tried installing Linux to try it out
but all the distro’s i tried didn’t work
i tried Mandriva and it couldn’t mount my ntfs partitions ( because of hal policy thing )which is all my hard drives the same with open SUSE :spin:
ubuntu didn’t recognize my monitor and defaulted to 60 fps refresh rate which strained my eyes and i turn out that ubuntu mounted my drives becaus of a bug that privente it from barsing the policy files :spin::spin:
can any one tell me how to dublicate this bug in other distros :smiley:
i’m triyng to swich to all free software but this is kiling this idea

Just a thought, I’ve not been able to mount my NTFS partitions if they were suspended (IE hibernate or sleep mode, or improperly shut down.) After a proper shut down, they were accessible.

What are your system specs? What video card?

thanks for the reply
my specs are
windows xp pro sp2, Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.26 Ghz, ATI radeon 7500,786 ram , 3 hard drives WD 1 sata 40 g and 2 IDE 120 and 80 g the distros i tried didn’t open my partition even when i booted them from Live virsion cd :spin:
and

Just a thought, I’ve not been able to mount my NTFS partitions if they were suspended (IE hibernate or sleep mode, or improperly shut down.) After a proper shut down, they were accessible.
non of that is true in my case :no:
thanks again

ubuntu didn’t recognize my monitor and defaulted to 60 fps refresh rate which strained my eyes

Do you read and try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973

Mounting of ntfs can be done manually:
mkdir /mnt/bad_disk
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/bad_disk

After that all your files from NTFS partition will in /mnt/bad_disk
/dev/sda1 depends of your configuration it can be also /dev/sda2 … /dev/sda3 … or /dev/sdb1 …

WARNING: if invoke mount as I sagest only root can access data

Do you read and try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973

Mounting of ntfs can be done manually:
mkdir /mnt/bad_disk
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/bad_disk

After that all your files from NTFS partition will in /mnt/bad_disk
/dev/sda1 depends of your configuration it can be also /dev/sda2 … /dev/sda3 … or /dev/sdb1 …

WARNING: if invoke mount as I sagest only root can access data Do you read and try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973

Mounting of ntfs can be done manually:
mkdir /mnt/bad_disk
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/bad_disk

After that all your files from NTFS partition will in /mnt/bad_disk
/dev/sda1 depends of your configuration it can be also /dev/sda2 … /dev/sda3 … or /dev/sdb1 …

WARNING: if invoke mount as I sagest only root can access data
sorry you misunderstood me but ubunu is the one that mounted my drives but did not recognize my monitor and set it 60 fps refresh rate
open suse 11.1 and mandriva 2009.1 spring are the ones that didn’t mount my drives and gave me an error massage about hal policy
plus my disks would be very offended if I call them bad :slight_smile: and besides these is a hack I need a solution like disabling this policy all together do any one know how i can do this
but thanks any way

I understand you :slight_smile:
And give solutions for your 2 problems.
This is not hack, this is always working Linux way.
If policy is PolicyKit then there is GUI for that (never try it, so don’t know where is configuration file) but think somewhere in /etc/ :slight_smile:

thank you dimaL it’s a strange way but i will try it
i think this is way people are afraid of Linux we are ( the windows folks are a lazy bunch we like buttons any thing that need typing at a counsel sounds like a hack to me :slight_smile:
like when i was installing the distro i nearly got a heart attack when i chose accept for custom partitioning the drive
i thought that this is the end of all my data because i couldn’t understand what sdc1 and 2 and 3 mean way don’t they use the partition labels?
i just took a chance that i chose the right one . thank god it worked

Main Menu->System->Preferences->Display


Ntfs partitions don’t automount anymore under Ubuntu for some reason, never really looked into why since I only installed winders on my laptop to tether with my blackberry, which now works fine under linux, and haven’t reclaimed the disk space because vista is a serious PITA to install and get working properly.

yes i got to this but i couldn’t change it only have the 60 fps option

and haven’t reclaimed the disk space because vista is a serious PITA to install and get working properly

yes i agree about vista and i don’s think the extra functionality is worth all the resource or the effort

You could try writing a modeline for your xorg.conf. I think it is covered in the link posted earlier:-
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973

i kind of gave up i will wait until this issue is resolved in SUSE 20 or something i told you before I’m a lazy windows dude
plus i 'm afraid i will ruin my hard drive or something :slight_smile:
thanks for all the help

try fedora… i’ve got a weird laptop display and such, but it figured it out. Also, ATI makes some linux drivers that might help.

for fedora:
check fedorafaq.com, the section ‘using 3d acceleration for ati radeon’

i will try it maybe… thanks again:D

hear, heare. Im also former windows user, running ubuntu right now and getting Linux to do even simple things is a pain in the ass. Not to mention this geeky terminal work that you have to do every once in a while.
If Linux guys want linux to be professional and used widely they will have to make a good graphical UI and make it so that everything can be done using that interferance (just like in windows). Also, they will need to give apps and everything else some good names. I mean /dev/sda1 ? WTF?

your typo made me laugh out loud!

everything can be done using that interferance
hah hah hah!

So why do you use it if it’s such a pain?

the trouble with open source is that people want it to be “whatever thing” , identicallly but for no cost… "gimp sux 'cause it can’t do “whatever” photoshop feature…

Linux already is professional and used widely, just less commonly in the “desktop” market…

geeky it may be, but being able to do everything from the terminal is quite refreshing actually…

The terminal tends to be used for all the tutorials because it’s easier to write tutorials that way!

Especially when the graphical configuration tools could be gnome based, kde based Xfce… or whatever…

and UBUNTU is rapidly coming to a point where everything can be done graphically…

the point is, for linux to become what you seem to want it’d have to be “one distro” with “one GUI”…

Linux main charm is that it can become whatever you want it to be, that’s freedom!

hear, heare. Im also former windows user, running ubuntu right now and getting Linux to do even simple things is a pain in the ass. Not to mention this geeky terminal work that you have to do every once in a while.
If Linux guys want linux to be professional and used widely they will have to make a good graphical UI and make it so that everything can be done using that interferance (just like in windows). Also, they will need to give apps and everything else some good names. I mean /dev/sda1 ? WTF?
exactly …
I’m a big fan of open software but to have to learn the almost hackish way of doing stuff in Linux when obviously i came from windows which spoiled me rotten with it is ease of use is scary
even knowing that Linux more stable and more secure

Linux already is professional and used widely, just less commonly in the “desktop” market…

geeky it may be, but being able to do everything from the terminal is quite refreshing actually…

The terminal tends to be used for all the tutorials because it’s easier to write tutorials that way!

Especially when the graphical configuration tools could be gnome based, kde based Xfce… or whatever…

and UBUNTU is rapidly coming to a point where everything can be done graphically…

the point is, for Linux to become what you seem to want it’d have to be “one distro” with “one GUI”…

Linux main charm is that it can be come whatever you want it to be, that’s freedom!
that is good for people with allot of interest in the software industry and geeks
but for the average user and they are the majority of users, they don’t want to deal with strange terminology or to get an unintelligible error massage that make them think that its the end of the world and most of them can’t even type that good anyway
and most of all they want the software to work out of the box

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Michael W is absolutely right. You don’t have to use it and I even think that you shouldn’t use it with your attitude. GNU/Linux offers you a lot, but you need to learn at least a bit. GNU/Linux is (fortunately) not Windows, it works differently. Sometimes things can be done easier in GNU/Linux, sometimes things can be done easier in Windows.
I for my part find GNU/Linux much much much easier than Windows. I stopped using Windows XP about 3 years ago (I still have a XP partition for gaming though which I boot a few times per year) and GNU/Linux is at least for me so much more comfortable. Ubuntu installs itself in a few minutes and then EVERYTHING is ready. I don’t need to search for drivers or install a bunch of software, it just works. Besides everything is Free Software which rocks even more. :wink:

How can you say that everything is ready? Please. Every time I plug in one of my devices it doesnt do anything (on 8.10). Jaunty does mount them but due to shitty proprietary drivers I cant run blender therefore Im running 8.10.
Should I add the fact that I have to mount my hard drives every time I boot up?
How do I get the latest software to work? By compiling my own? hahah no thanks but I dont want to be a geek that people knew but they wished they didnt. Ill leave that to Linux fanboys.

These things aren’t “hackish” ways of doing things, its the way people did things until GUIs became popular in the 80s and 90s, and hacks were made to do things through a GUI.

I would tend to argue that unintelligible error messages, and inexplicable software problems would be a strictly Windows phenomena.

I believe that although Windows does make things easier to do, if you these ways don’t work, or you want to do something they didn’t expect, it makes things much more difficult. In Windows, if Explorer decides to die on you, you are stuck. There are no plain-text config files to look at, only very primitive logs, and there is really nothing you can get done. In Linux, if GNOME dies on you, you can still do all your work, and you can try reseting config files to get it fixed.
“My Microsoft Word won’t open this file, what do I do?” there is no answer, there are a plethora of possibilities.
“I cannot open this text file, what do I do?” Check the permissions.