Can’t you put it on YouTube, if you want it there?
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I don’t want to touch this thing. LOL. This is the whole paradox here.
Can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, if you catch my meaning
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Well I have added a license making it legal for other people to put it to youtube. 
So I’m making a Film Festival application of it. ( The Tel Aviv one since it is very close to where I live, so I could attend it ). And they have a problem.
The short film category allows films only under 21 minutes. ( Moria’s Race is 29:14 and 25 minutes if I remove credits. Too long.)
The feature film category allows films above an hour and something. ( Moria’s Race is too short )
Moria’s Race is right in the middle between the two. But they have some kind of Online showcase ( which is under 40, good ). And I can still nominate for best director and best writer. Which means that at least the judges will see the movie.
It’s not too expensive. But nobody guarantees that I will enter the festival. I will risk it. Who knows, maybe somebody will finally see the movie.
Now finally available on peertube:
If you like Moria’s Race there is now a dedicated Mastodon account for the movie. Yes! This is a desperate attempt to make people care about it. And it is most likely going to fail. But I will try it anyway. Posting a post once in a while is not very hard. I might start posting .blend files there as well. I need to see what will be the kind of stuff that you could put there which people would react to.
Here is the link: https://mastodon.social/@moriasrace
If you like Moria’s Race there is now a dedicated Mastodon account for the movie. Yes! This is a desperate attempt to make people care about it. And it is most likely going to fail. But I will try it anyway. Posting a post once in a while is not very hard. I might start posting .blend files there as well. I need to see what will be the kind of stuff that you could put there which people would react to.
Here is the link: https://mastodon.social/@moriasrace
The goal of most filmmakers is to distribute their work to as large a potential audience as possible. You have proactively chosen to not do this by avoiding Youtube, and instead have gone with very non-mainstream ways to show your film.
Your hatred of Youtube seems to eclipse your own desire for your film to be seen; that’s certainly something you’re allowed to feel, but it’s the choice that you’ve consciously made.
Most people don’t use the Tor browser, for reasons I’ll not even get into. Even fewer number of people are likely to download your film, then upload it to Youtube for you. You’re ok with having the Youtube audience, but you don’t want to click the upload button yourself…? - I’m sorry, but ponder that for a bit and re-evaluate how likely you think this really is.
To the film itself, it could benefit from some editing. There are a few shots that are far too long, as well as one or two that simply should be cut from the film entirely. The credits are nearly 5 minutes long, and a significant amount of the text is listing yourself in 30 different roles… “A film created by JYA” would suffice for most of that.
At the beginning of the film - similarly, I believe it was 45 seconds or so of credits before the film even begins. (It’s fine to mention the software used, but leave this for a quick mention at the end of the credits.)
Finally, on the audio: I watched your “making of”, and know about the issues you had with your VO talent. Without any regard to her accent, the audio quality of the recording (or the mix) needs improvement. Example, the long scene where the girl and boy are driving around aimlessly - I had no idea what either character was saying for at least half of the conversation. At other times, the music was far too loud over the VO, which made it even more impossible to understand the dialog. So I would suggest you take another shot at the full audio, as it would benefit the final cut.
It’s impressive to make a 30 minute animation, so well done on that. Perhaps it has not had the success you have been hoping for, but I believe some of these issues can be improved if you’ll spend a more bit time polishing, and actually publish the film on websites that most of the world actually visit.
I’m not going to run proprietary software on my computer. And uploading to YouTube requires proprietary JavaScript to be executed on my computer. There are software on GitHub to upload to youtube, but all of them require an API key from youtube. Which means running non-free software from youtube to get the key and potentially agreeing to their terms of service which I do not want to agree to.
I have no problem of the movie being on youtube or through torrent on in tor or anywhere. People could publish it on websites that I do not know about. And it would be fine. People could give each other copies of it on a disk, or a USB drive and it would be fine.
You don’t need to buy it to see it. But even simply to see it is too much to ask from people. I get it. And it is fine. You can delete the movie from your memory and block the mention of “Moria’s Race” in your browser.
Also moderators. I asked to delete all of my posts and my account. When will this happen?
Maybe… if you do not post this “request” in offtopic chat ( and then still answer here ) ???
All of your reasons for not creating a youtube account are your own reasons, and it’s perfectly fine to not use it for any reason you like. You can choose to avoid youtube because you don’t like the colors of their logo.
But over several posts, you’ve expressed … basically, anger?.. that you’ve not had more viewership. If you choose to make your film difficult to find and watch - this is not the fault of the audience.
It’s not shocking to get little attention on something - a film, a book, a restaurant - when you adamantly avoid every successful method used to gain attention; it’s the expected result.
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It’s not difficult. The links are right on this page.
It’s just there is some kind of push against me. I feel it. I wrote an extensive email to BlenderNation for example, about how I made the movie. The answer was that they didn’t like me basically and therefor would not want my movie to be posted about.
I was featured as a tiny logo amongst many other logo on the Blender Nation. While A similar movie ( that I actually like ) that also doesn’t have a youtube release is featured prominently as a stand alone thing.
There is something inherently rotten about this website. And it this rot hates me particularly.
So essentially things didn’t went as you expected… and now it’s all rotten…
…but you also do not want to “publish” your work on (a) certain website(s)…
Good luck.
Bad luck. And I’m okay with it.
Dude, even the website link you’ve put on your IMDB listing requires a dark web browser. Do you really not understand how unconventional that is?
Your opinion of the dark web might be ‘the perfect place of internet freedom’ - most everyone else associates the dark web with illegal drugs, money laundering, and human trafficking. (I’m not implying you support such things, don’t make that your takeaway.)
People could give each other copies of it on a disk, or a USB drive and it would be fine.
Is this a distribution choice that you see other artists using with any amount of success? I think the last time I downloaded a video, burned it onto a CD/DVD and handed it to someone was in a year starting with 19.
Beyond that, it is not the job of the viewer to make sure your film is seen by as many people as possible. Guess who is in charge of that?
I have been a part of the 3D online community for decades. Decades, with a “s”. This website supports the community population in ways that I’ve rarely seen on most other sites related to DCC.
I’ve not seen any hatred directed at you, whatsoever - if it was, it was received privately by you in DMs, and would be unfortunate.
ETA: Your film was certainly not buried by Blender Nation; it’s actually near the top of the page, compared to others who were also featured.
There are ways to distribute things that are ethical. And ways that are not. Me putting the movie on YouTube or Vimeo would be me endorsing those platforms. But they are not something to endorse.
Go to defectivebydesign.org to see what I mean by that.
If somebody else uploads it there, I can say that I didn’t do that. And there would not be a blame on me. Also I’m happy that nobody did that. Because it would mean that this poor somebody had to run proprietary software himself. Which is equally is unjust.
But if somebody wants to I would not Paternalise you from doing it. And it could theoretically help maybe. But I doubt it helping. YouTube is so over-saturated that there is no way anybody will actually click on this stupid movie.
I’m not going to avoid your movie because it is accessible via TOR – I appreciate TOR’s existence very much; I use it myself, and usually try to convey the good sides of it to people who’re predisposed to thinking of it as solely associated with criminal enterprise.
I don’t mind that you want to avoid sites like Youtube; I understand why, and while your method of distribution is uncommon and not going to work well, you have every right to make your own decisions about such things. I’m not even gonna argue that in principle; we’re in agreement. But it can matter for its visibility how accessible a work is.
About being featured on this site (which is not the same as BlenderNation, where you did get featured): Here it is determined by the members of this site who maintain “regular” status (which means we spend a certain amount of time and effort trying to make this site worthwhile, commenting constructively, helping people solve their problems). We nominate artwork we (individually) think is interesting in some way, and we vote on those nominations. It’s all very informal, and whether any of us like the message of an artwork isn’t something we usually debate; individual people make up their individual minds, and there are very few rules. Bart, the site owner has the final decision, but from what I have seen, he respects how we vote and what we have to say (if we say anything – most negatives are about people who post work that’s not their own). In general my observation is that most of us prefer artwork with story. Even if I don’t like the story, I tend to find art more interesting if it at least alludes to something beyond a pretty picture. If anything here has problems getting featured, it’s archvis. I went back to see if there was anything notable in our forum about your movie because I didn’t remember. I didn’t vote on it because I was sick and couldn’t muster the energy to watch long videos. The person nominating it actually wrote an extra note pointing out the effort (which is rare), there was another largely positive comment, then there were a couple comments about it being difficult to access. Nothing negative about the story at all. The vote total was low. That tells me the issue was likely the accessibility.
To address the quote, the most rotten thing in this altercation here is how you acted. I didn’t know you from Adam when I saw today’s posts by you – and what were you doing? Tearing into another artist (in clear violation of the guidelines of this site which ask us to be respectful), and then acting like an entitled jerk when a moderator informed you of it. That artist had done nothing at all to provoke your attack; you were taking out your pique at not being featured here solely because they had been featured, and you jumped to all sorts of false conclusions. Speaking truth to power is a good thing. Punching down or across on your own level isn’t. That left a bad taste in my mouth.
So, for me it’s not TOR and it’s not your story – it’s that you’re acting like a selfish jerk on a site where most people try to restrain their nastier impulses, (far from being rotten, which is actually quite exceptional, and the main reason for why I like it here). Instead of working yourself into feeling ever so persecuted, you might try working on not acting like a jerk. That’s a lot more work, and you don’t get to imagine yourself as the hero, but I suggest it’s in the long run more satisfying because it is entirely in your own control.
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That artist talked to me in private supporting my position.
People like Lars Von Trier opened their own film companies so their awful jerky entitled positions would not get censored. I like tor since I can be as awful and as repulsing I want to be on my website. And it’s my god damned right to be awful and repulsing.
I did not make the IMDB page. It was somebody who is subscribed to my matrix chat. I couldn’t do that since making an IMDB page requires running their non-free JavaScript. And potentially signing something I do not want to sign.