have u ever thought that its his job to encourage people??
i havent yet seen a teacher of art that would sicuredge a student no mater what they did
Then show him this site and specifically the gallery section here and then have him compare your work to the ones that have been moved to the gallery. Then see what he says.
And I agree with what vitaly said too.
BgDM
I do have to say though that because of his position and that he does art and composition in photoshop himself I would say heās seen a lot of art. Heād probably be impressed by the art in the gallery, but he wouldnāt call my art worthless because of that or say itās quite bad now that heās seen them.
have u notised that you are the one that is calling the art worthless?? while reading throu ur threadds i havent seen anyone say word by word that your art is trash to w/e
you are the one pushing the idea and thinking that every 1 is saying that
Haha! You shouldāve been in my art foundation courses. Man, do I have some horror stories that involves students with tears. Thereās something that happens to you when in open class critque, the professor takes someoneās work off the wall, steps on it few times, hangs it back up, and announces that the work has been improved. The worst part is realizing that heās right.
Look. Iām sure Iāve said this before. I donāt know any artists who look at their own work and canāt find something to fix. While crits from other people may be frustrating and brutal, they should pale in comparision to the criticism you have for your own work. I post work expecting, even desiring that people tear it apart. Sometimes they even catch problems that I hadnāt thought of.
The point: if you expect to be an artist with work for the public, you better expect feedback in the form of critiques. If you donāt want feedback, then you should question why youāre showing work at all. Also, the most honest critques you can get are from strangers. When I show work to friends or family, I donāt ask what they think. I ask them, āWhatās wrong with this picture?ā Otherwise, they just say itās nice or good and are of no help to me.
Iām only 15, but Iāll throw my āphilosophyā in here, hoping that youāll somehow
gain something from it. And please, be happy about your work. Itās not as bad
as some people make it (or you yourself make it for that matter). The image
in this thread is actually very nice IMO!
Okay, Iāll break it up into common logic. Which is all it really is about.
There is 24 hours a day. How do you best spend them?
- Complaining about what others say about your work.
- Listening to what others say, and do something about it! Work for it!
Itās all about throwing away the notion that when people crit your work they
crit you - itās not true! I have had problems with throwing that bit of proudness
you have over a image away when people crit. Everybody has - itās natural to
be proud of your work, just donāt let it keep you away from improving. Itās tough,
but man, ITāS THE WAY TO GO! Trust me!
Be happy that anyone would ever crit your work - that means youāll be able to
learn more! Improve!
Be a āworkaholicā. Fight with every scene in Blender, until you pass out!
And good luck! Sincerely hoping that you donāt quit. Would be a shame!
//Mathias
Hey man,
Donāt feel so bad! Yes critiques are hard to take, and I know exactly what you are feeling. Iāve posted stuff here before that I was happy with, and then someone would come along and tell me something that was wrong with it. Each time I read one of those posts Iād be secretly disappointed that someone else didnāt like my workāwhich seems to be exactly what you are saying here.
The thing to remember/learn is to keep trucking on, with the knowledge that the critiques are given out of kindness, as a way for you to better your work. Yes, you may occasionally get a few idiots who just donāt like you, and want to bash your stuff, but I can gurantee you, especially on a forum like this, that MOST of the people commenting on the art are doing it because they want to see you improve.
Oh, and read some of the posts here by other members again (StompinTom, Greenlig). I felt they were really trying to help you, not just tear you apart (and besides, they say stuff so much better than I :D).
EDIT: Gasp! M.h.p.e., youāre only 15? For some reason I had the notion that you were an old geezer (at least 30 or so, that is :P). Anyway. . .
-Obi
age has abosultely no meaning, im 17, (just turned 17 less then a week ago) and i have been using blender for about 4 months, im fairly satisfied with my work and skill
Icoxo is not seeking admiration, he is self-flagellating and youāre all helping.
While he spends half his time on these forums telling others to live life the way he believes life should be lived and to speak the language the way he believes it should be spoken, he says he doesnāt take criticism very well. While he claims repeatedly and often to be a Christian, he constantly threatens suicide. If he feels this way then he needs to seek counselling, not art critiques. (Itās a complete myth by the way that to be a great artist you have to suffer from manic depression and self-abuse - though it is certainly a popular myth)
Iām 45 years old and been involved in art in one form or another since I can remember (since at least six years old) and I wish I was as good a Blender artist as The M.h.p.e who it turns out is just 15. Search the finished projects forum and see how many pieces you find in there from me. None (that I recall anyway). Thatās no reason for me to curse myself, Iām good at what Iām good at, I work hard to improve in other areas and I avoid those things which simply arenāt me or enjoy them for what they are and leave it at that.
In Icoxoās case (sorry but Iām just not going to play the āIām a real dragonā game) it appears he may be doing the same. Unfortunately the thing heās chosen to excel at is trolling and projected self-criticism.
In all seriousness, itās incredibly sad and I think forum users, if theyāre to be responsible, should avoid playing the game - if only to reduce the amount of trolling thatās going on.
It is somewhat related to age. Not everyone is created alike and not everyone is a natural born artist. At a younger age kids get frustrated easily and try to give up more often. Its easy to get jealous of someone (regardless of age) who produces better work and makes it look easy; I know I didā¦ there were a couple of guys I just hated :D. But around 17-18, Iād expect that kids have become more mature to realize that the road to success isnāt easy. Give Kansas_15 some timeā¦ after university and a few jobs, Iām sure heāll fall in line.
What the heck, what does this have to do with whateverās being said here? And the āreal dragonā thing is just as much a work of fiction as sago saying he is a giant baby or Wu-man saying he is an elite superhero or people referring to them as that.
Sounds like every new work you post turns into a flame war or a heated debate that has been talked about a million time. I donāt want to sounds like the voice of reason of such but how about we all calm down a bit. Itās only a bunch of renders after all. But I agree with stompintom.
When I started working with blender about 2 - 3 years ago (god I cant remember) I was around youre age. I think 15 and something. I worked with blender for almost 6 months before I ever posted my first work of art on these forums and as i expected I got critiques. A critique, may sound negative at first, but its a GOOD THING in the long term as they point out what you need to work on. Now Iāll be 18 in a few months and Iāve worked a lot with blender and everyday I try to learn something new and get feedback on how to improve my latest project ( I usually if not always put my work in the WIP section before i finalise it) I try to listen to as many comments as I get. āMake it brighter a bitā , āsofter shadowsā. If I donāt know how to do it, I either look it up, do a tutorial or ask but I post a halfway completed/rushed work.
So to sum it up, when giving a critique, try to tell what you need to improve and HOW to do it (it doesnt need a detailled expanation. Just a focused idea to fix the problem. ex: add another lamp and make it slightly yellowish)
When receiving a critique, dont take it as an insult, on the other hand, if you post it on these forums, you expect to get them and to use them to improve your work. People get annoyed when giving out criticism to try and improve your work only to see their comment they took the time to write ignored and find an insult rather than a thanks!
So rather then tumbling down in this spiral of everyone shouting at each other over laziness and so on. letās try to calm down a bit and post your work in the WIP section to get critiques, listen to them and apply them to your work and continue until you have a decent render. Not a hastely thrown 2hour scene.
Well those are my 2 cents. I know it has been said a billion times now but I hope youāll understand rather than continuing like this as it will ultimaly turn into something unpleasant for everyone
Edeehem
Amen on that one ^^ 
Render looks nice, but I really really really think you should fix the stretched textures 
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And I agree with āThe Jimmyā This is indeed enough of this.
BgDM