new laptop triple booting?

I have an intel mac power book core 2 duo. I want to install linux, mac and xp pro. is it possible with boot camp? something tells me it isn’t. or is very difficult.

I have read that it is possible…

ah, a booty call. had to say it :smiley:

http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/04/23/triple-boot-your-intel-mac/

It is possible but tricky as the above website shows but since OS X is a unix-based system, do you need to use Linux? If you want to just mess around with it, it’s much easier to use virtualization software like Parallels to run Linux and just dual-boot with Windows. You might even be able to run Linux from an external drive.

good idea OSX. after all of my hating on macs I gotta say this sucker is rocking my world. I am posting from work on my new beast - core 2 duo macbook pro 17’’ 2 gb ram/160 gig hdd/ATI X1600. I got an incredible deal on ebay for it - basically it was the price of the less souped up 15’’ macbook pro, with no taxes, hand-delivered, brand new.

anyone have any luck finding boot camp? I’ve been looking everywhere for it but it looks like apple took all the links down! if anyone could host it , send me a link i’d be wildly appreciative.

I would also recommend anyone with a laptop do what I did - I bought a $20 external USB NUMBER pad! I didn’t even know it existed until I saw it at Staples. much better than a numpad emulator script. now I can render at home and work on the laptop, plus I can now use FCP HD which is better than Adobe Premiere IMO.

click on the goodwill one. :wink:

I’ve seen reports of a couple of hardcore PC users getting a Mac these days. I think it’s just that Apple have made such a major change to their products instead of what they used to do and pretend what they had was good enough, which gave them a bad image. They still have a different business model which isn’t up everyone’s street but most of the products are at least up to scratch.

Some things you may not be aware of is that you can scroll if you drag two fingers on the trackpad and if you have two fingers on the pad and click, that makes a right-click. These options are in the preferences of course and when you install the drivers for Windows, you get that functionality there too. I’m sure you’ll use an external mouse though.

Not bad. Apple themselves have some quite good deals on refurbs. They come with the same warranty as new ones but you can get as much as 30% off. I haven’t seen a deal that good before even though 17" seems like it would be a freakin’ huge laptop. I don’t even like the 15" ones - 12" only for me. :cool:

Rumor has it one might be coming with the same spec as the bigger ones.

You may want to consider Applecare at some point. You can buy it up to a year after the machine was first bought. This covers all sorts of failures that can be quite expensive to fix. I’ve heard a couple of iMac users whose screen failed and were left with a $500 repair bill. It’s one reason I don’t like all-in-ones or LCDs, though it can’t be avoided with a laptop. It’s the same with any extended warranty though, it’s a waste of money if you don’t need it but it certainly adds to the resale value.

This link seems to be working for me:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/publicbeta.html

If you get an error, try refreshing the page and see if the download starts. It’s good that you are installing Windows before you start using the machine a lot because although OS X defrags on the fly, it only does small files and Bootcamp can fail to partition if the disk is too fragmented, which means a clone to an external drive, a format and a clone back.

Bootcamp is used very little in the process btw. A lot of people get misconceptions about what it really is. All it does is partition the drive and burn a drivers CD. From there, it’s like installing Windows on a PC. Even without Bootcamp, you can boot a Windows CD.

Also, when you split the drive, try not to split it 50/50 because it’s harder to tell which one is the Windows partition in the XP install screen.

Another thing about Parallels is that the new one supports booting the Windows that is on your Bootcamp partition so you don’t need a drive image. In other words, you can reboot into Windows to run it natively or if you are in OS X and need to do something quick, you can open Parallels and boot the same Windows without rebooting the machine. File sharing is tricky if you don’t use Fat32 though but if you do, you obviously are limited to 4GB files etc.

Yup we switched from Premiere Pro where I work a few months back and FCP seems to be more reliable. You might want to look at Shake too, which is probably my favourite program out of any I’ve used. It’s why I’m glad Blender is getting a node based compositor (even if it’s being implemented less than optimally).

Other handy programs are:

Whatsize: http://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/
for getting rid of some of the 15GB used by a default OS X install

monolingual: http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/
for getting rid of extra languages you don’t need (frees up about 1GB). Be very careful here because the new version removes PPC binaries by default, which breaks Rosetta programs so make sure to uncheck it before running it.

Uno: http://gui.interacto.net/
for getting rid of the brushed metal theme in favour of a more refined look.

easyfind: http://www.devon-technologies.com/products/freeware/index.html
for times the indexed search doesn’t find what you need.

0xed: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/0xed.html
a hex editor

Smultron: http://smultron.sourceforge.net/
code editor

cdfinder: http://www.cdfinder.de/downloads.html
disk cataloging

liquidcd: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/19994
disc burning. There’s also Toast, which I use but LiquidCD is free.

onmycommand: http://free.abracode.com/cmworkshop/
for running Javascript, shell script, applescript etc from the contextual menu.

superduper: http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html
cloning tool

tinkertool: http://www.bresink.de/osx/TinkerTool.html
for customizing zoom windows and things.

unrarx:http://unrarx.sourceforge.net/
easy way to unarchive rar files

Audio hijack Pro: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/
captures audio streams from any source

DVD backup: http://www.mactheripper.org/
http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=YadeX

DVD compression: http://homepage.mac.com/major4/
http://www.dvd2one.com/

MPEG editing: http://www.squared5.com/

bbdemux: http://sourceforge.net/projects/macbbdemux
for demuxing mpeg 1 and 2

gumby: http://gumby.misplacedmac.com/
various things including coverting .bin/.cue to mpeg

Handbrake: http://handbrake.m0k.org/
convert DVD to mpeg-4 in one go

isquint: http://www.isquint.org/
H264 compressor

d-vision: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8825
split/join/repair DivX/Xvid files

delicious library: http://www.delicious-monster.com/
scans barcodes using the isight. It’s mainly for books and it can give you the current retail value of a book by checking Amazon.

“Apple themselves have some quite good deals on refurbs. They come with the same warranty as new ones but you can get as much as 30% off. I haven’t seen a deal that good before even though 17” seems like it would be a freakin’ huge laptop. I don’t even like the 15" ones - 12" only for me. :cool:"

it is FUCKING huge. a pain to carry, yes, but worth it once I open it up.

ok a couple of questions. GREAT helpful links, esp. the barcode scanner! I’m going to have to do some blender render scene comparisons between xp pro and os X on the same machine to see what’s faster.

ok found bootcamp - just needed to use firefox (!)

question - so if I go NTFS on the windows partition what is the difficulty of sharing files between OSs? I don’t foresee needing that more than I would need files in excess of 4 gigs (I do a ton of video editing so that is a huge downside)

OS X only has read access to an NTFS filesystem. I read somewhere it was something to do with a different permissions model.

There have been experimental drivers for NTFS write for various systems but they are probably best avoided:

OS X has an NTFS command-line tool with limited write:

http://www.hmug.org/man/8/mount_ntfs.php

Parallels is probably the best tool that lets you write to the NTFS partition. I’ve just found its shared folders option a bit flakey at times.

The solution most dual booters are going for besides using FAT32 is to use MacDrive:

http://www.mediafour.com/

This should allow you to access your Mac files when you are booted into Windows.

Another solution is to use a network drive, which is compatible with all the systems:

For Liniux 3g-NTFS has both read write support. I use it and haven’t had any problems. i think that its not so dangerous as the previous one.

For Windows I have a little program that lets me read my linux partition. Makes dual booting a little easier. Forgot the name in my control panel it says IFS drives