📣 New policy: ALL political discussions are now off-topic

Having worked at Epic Games I have a bit of insight into how such companies work. Basically they’re cowards and not really interested in having an honest conversation with their community. Is that the model you’d prefer here?

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Not going to argue with you on this take
TBH I truly, Deeply HATE Daz inc. and am very happy to see them desperately trying to stop the rapid bleeding of their user base over to generative AI for their sexy girl renders ,but I digress. :innocent:

but I was think more in terms of Joseph
not having to repeat himself to every new “protester” regarding what will get you suspended/or banned but I am quite happy about this new policy nonetheless

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Wise decision, Bart. Politics nowadays in particular is pita and it doesn’t matter the effort one does, it always ends up getting sucked in or disgruntled at least


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Bruh wtf, that’s was very political and that mentality oh welp
at least you deleted it to prevent other ban :wink::laughing:

That’s not how it works. He posted it, he got his one-month ban.

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Ok then, that’s your call :+1:t3:

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Can we just put a pin into this one?
Everybody who wanted to vent about the decision did so, and now it’s just like flogging a dead horse imho


my € 0.02 :wink:

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I’m mainly repeating myself because people keep saying “the staff will do this” or “the staff won’t do that” and I don’t want there to be any possible confusion. No one except Bart, Jason, Metin, or myself can say anything about what the staff will do. Anyone else is wrong, full stop.

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I simply want this site to be what it is: a place for Blender Artists(!) to show off their work, to request critiques, and to ask technical questions. "Please just stay focused on that."

There are literally hundreds of other sites that I can go to if I want to waste my time with “politics.” (Which I don’t.) But, this is IMHO the best site concerning what concerns me here: “Blender!”

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Good on you, chief, though strange it took this long to address the obscene contradiction, as “no politics allowed” was in place already, by your own admission, if I recall our conversation correctly.

Anyway, see you kids in a few years.

You know whats funny in your opinion? Maybe its just me and my personal expirience, but im never ever saw a post like “Hey, i have a problem with texture, here’s how its look in photoshop, and here’s how its look like in blender is this a problem with color settings or palestina israeli conflict?”
Despite the obvious fact what am overly saturate my example, its still relevant. Im never saw a politic discussion in modeling thread. Im never saw politic discussion even in more general topics, like topics about blender development, or sculpt development thread.
Which makes a question - why you dont upset because of your “wasted times” with such topics as The big retro computing nostalgia thread ?
Aren’t those people talking about old vintage PCs just wasting your time and having nothing to do with Blender itself, no?
Maybe its because you dont visit suck topics, right? When how exactly threads about politics are affecting you? Is someone grabbing your hand and dragging you into political threads?

If it work “that” way, can you briefly explain why it works for “sites” but not work for one single blender artist site and all the reads and discussion it have?

You are missing the point in that those political threads take a lot of moderation to keep people from maligning their fellow blender artists over a topic that is not worth it on a blender website. Yes, there are other topics in Off Topics, but those don’t cause people to go after each other’s throats and need moderators to put opposing parties in time out or worse.

The political threads always cause a limited staff to be overworked and over stressed for nothing. Retro computing nostalgia hasn’t caused people to hate each other or attack each other, rather the opposite.

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exactly! well put.

Don’t do that. You know the difference between “should these groups of people kill themselves and each other” and “what’s your favorite OS” just as much as every other rational adult here

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The key point in all on-line discussions should be that the discussions are never to be "about participants." Stick to the subject at hand – including when "talking about this."

So 
 "why are we still ‘talking about this?’" I see a padlock in the near future. This is going nowhere.

Actually i didnt even try to pretend what i dont get the difference of such topics.
Im not even really (im “kind of”, but cant say “really”) against the whole decision of ban politic topics in BA. Mostly since i believe what am pretty correctly get the main political point of view of Bart which im personally share.
But i was against the specific way of how the whole politic topics problem was explained and served by the @sundialsvc4. Because again - his personal time was not taken by the politic topics at all, except the cases he jump in by his own will. Also despite the obvious fact what the whole “blender artist forum” are self explainatory - its about artist who use blender, and even dispite the fact what politics are banned now, its kind of wierd what some one make a stance like “lets focus on this or that”, because, you know, people can desides by themselves what to be focus on.

Its my opinion, based on my expirience and cannot be properly explained beacause the whole explanation will be politicized up to 100%, so i will not try to. But as a short politics free version i can say what theres a huge difference (pretty much as difference between choosing OS and politic debates) in how exactly we name, discuss and serve point of view or problem.
I can totally get "political threads take a lot of moderation"© @CDMJ but i cant and will not get the someone who serve the politic topics problem as “its waste my time” or “lets focus on that because its about blender”.

Reasonable moderating trumps political topics.

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In the spirit of left/right unification, I want to offer a music video that I just created recently that not only makes use of blender for its 3D elements but also offers a unique solution for bringing all sides together. It’s called Too Big To Fail and it has a tent that covers the 99% of us.

Hopefully this puts the discussion above in perspective: are the problems we face really about political beliefs — or just one side of human nature versus the other? You decide.

I’ll leave it to the mods to decide whether this post is allowable. There’s nothing in it to offend, and it does promote Blender in the credits.

14 seconds into your video, the word “politics” appears three times. I’m not sure how you can possibly see that as non-political, but
 yeah, that’s being removed. Don’t do that again

I didn’t say it was non-political. However, at the start and in clear and plain English, it explains how “Bio-Psychology” (as it relates to the innate tendency of men to compete for alpha male dominance) is responsible for the desperate grasping for political power. It has nothing to do with parties or ideologies but rather a desire to dominate. This kind of information is actually helpful to those being politically duped by both sides. I also write books about this subject.

Then again, people ban and burn books all the time, so
I’m not expecting much. :slight_smile: Thank you, Joseph, for looking after the community’s interests.