see the flanges, they look odd. and they don’t look round.
also i need them to be black but 'seeable" - so they still reflect the light.
thanks all
PS Shh! this is in 2.49b
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You’re going to have to make them a really dark grey in order for them to be “seeable”.
Black cant really reflect light unless you turn up the spectrum. If it get’s any lighter than black, it’s not black.
PS… I’m using 2.49 too! 
thanks…