Thanks Bart, I am prone to colourful language, I shall just refrain from using explicit language. I only asked because BlenderArtists is the only forum I still lurk, as all my other haunts have become overrun by bots, trolls, negative and nasty comments, the American bi-partisan bigoted commentaries on Slashdot, which I used to enjoy, has turned any kind of discussion into a disturbing dystopian nightmare. Your forum a breath of fresh air, although I do enjoy the occasional spat. I admit am guilty of forgetting that sarcasm and irony do not translate well on the internets. Perhaps I should rethink my general dislike of emojis. Keep up the good work and thanks once again!