Putin blames United States for Georgia conflict.

You now have something to worry about. Putin believes the United States deliberately sparked the conflict in Georgia to assist a specific US Presidential candidate.

This is the former head of the KGB, one of the best spy agencies ever to exist - suggesting a conspiracy you’d normally only hear from the likes of Alex Jones.

Since this forum loves conspiracy theories, I thought I’d throw that out there.


What will be next, WW3, Cold War 2, the return of bomb drills in schools?

In the same article Russia says it has a missle that can penetrate the US missle shield, not if the US gets wise and upgrades the technology behind its development.

Sorry folks, but this is old news.
We know the U.S. snuck attacked Russia via Georgia.

What we are talking about now is that russia quickly mobelized warships and airplanes equiped with nukes to surround U.S assets.

what we are talking about now is all out nuclear war with russia.

We are screwed.
I foresee bush postponing the 08 election and instituting Martial Law.

Here is a good article

Bomb drills are important. I would love to see that happen. I’d also like to see a new movie made similar to the old docu-drama “Threads”, and other nuclear-war awareness material. The more people who prepare, the less who end up dying.

Here is a FOX News interview with a few survivors of the conlift
She thanks the Russian troops for saving her life, and Fox is forced to cut them off

CD, we don’t have a missile shield. The reason we don’t nuke Russia, and they don’t nuke us, is the assurance that we or they would be committing suicide from the retaliatory strike.

Reagan’s pitiful Star Wars missile defence can’t even hit a target when they know when it’s taking off, where it’s headed and has a tracking beacon on board. “Up grading” this will still not be able to stop a Russian first strike with MIRV warheads on ICBMs. Of course they have a missile that can penetrate our missile defence. In fact, almost all of them can. The only reason Reagan thought up Star Wars was to prevent the defunding of the military industrial complex when he ‘ended’ the cold war and people started talking about the huge peace dividend this would bring to fund social and infrastructure programs with the money that would no longer need to go to defence.

The purpose of putting anti-missle batteries in states surrounding Russia, and “upgrading” them, if you will, is to potentially stop Russia’s retaliation after an American first strike, when presumably a lot of their ICBM capability will be destroyed. It profoundly destabilizes the current balance of power between the US and Russia, and if anything is likely to provoke WWIII and nuclear armageddon, that would be it.

Upgrading our anti-missle defences is not wise, but is one of the stupidest moves we can make. We’d be much better served by reestablishing the ABM treaty and continuing to negotiate a reduction in nuclear arms.

Are we seriously discussing the possibility of NUCLEAR WAR here:eek:?


NO seriously…

oh f****


Nothing about foreign affairs.

Even if the president wanted to, he needs permission of congress.

Nice try, but please try harder next time.


Ron Paul and Putin have the same belief it appears. We’ve instigated the matter. 2 minutes in -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOhk0JeoZtE


Pravda - http://english.pravda.ru/ - hyper polarized, it almost reads like Prison Planet. The question is, who are you going to believe?

According to this http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/27-08-2008/106216-nato_georgia-0 we’re arming the Georgians.

Russian hypersonic bombers could be coming to a Cuba near you!

Its a pitty more people don’t support this.

(sorry, ropsta, the devil made me do it.)

Here is the presidents “Blue prints” for just this situation.
This is just the cover page of the article,
The excecutive branch will not allow congress to view the rest of this article.


Subject: National Continuity Policy
(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes “National Essential Functions,” prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.
(2) In this directive:
(a) “Category” refers to the categories of executive departments and agencies listed in Annex A to this directive;
(b) “Catastrophic Emergency” means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;
© “Continuity of Government,” or “COG,” means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government’s executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;
(d) “Continuity of Operations,” or “COOP,” means an effort within individual executive departments and agencies to ensure that Primary Mission-Essential Functions continue to be performed during a wide range of emergencies, including localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies;
(e) “Enduring Constitutional Government,” or “ECG,” means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;
(f) “Executive Departments and Agencies” means the executive departments enumerated in 5 U.S.C. 101, independent establishments as defined by 5 U.S.C. 104(1), Government corporations as defined by 5 U.S.C. 103(1), and the United States Postal Service;
(g) “Government Functions” means the collective functions of the heads of executive departments and agencies as defined by statute, regulation, presidential direction, or other legal authority, and the functions of the legislative and judicial branches;
(h) “National Essential Functions,” or “NEFs,” means that subset of Government Functions that are necessary to lead and sustain the Nation during a catastrophic emergency and that, therefore, must be supported through COOP and COG capabilities; and
(i) “Primary Mission Essential Functions,” or “PMEFs,” means those Government Functions that must be performed in order to support or implement the performance of NEFs before, during, and in the aftermath of an emergency.
(3) It is the policy of the United States to maintain a comprehensive and effective continuity capability composed of Continuity of Operations and Continuity of Government programs in order to ensure the preservation of our form of government under the Constitution and the continuing performance of National Essential Functions under all conditions.
Implementation Actions
(4) Continuity requirements shall be incorporated into daily operations of all executive departments and agencies. As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received. Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted Government Functions. Risk management principles shall be applied to ensure that appropriate operational readiness decisions are based on the probability of an attack or other incident and its consequences.
(5) The following NEFs are the foundation for all continuity programs and capabilities and represent the overarching responsibilities of the Federal Government to lead and sustain the Nation during a crisis, and therefore sustaining the following NEFs shall be the primary focus of the Federal Government leadership during and in the aftermath of an emergency that adversely affects the performance of Government Functions:
(a) Ensuring the continued functioning of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government;
(b) Providing leadership visible to the Nation and the world and maintaining the trust and confidence of the American people;
© Defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and preventing or interdicting attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;
(d) Maintaining and fostering effective relationships with foreign nations;
(e) Protecting against threats to the homeland and bringing to justice perpetrators of crimes or attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;
(f) Providing rapid and effective response to and recovery from the domestic consequences of an attack or other incident;
(g) Protecting and stabilizing the Nation’s economy and ensuring public confidence in its financial systems; and
(h) Providing for critical Federal Government services that address the national health, safety, and welfare needs of the United States.
(6) The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination.
(7) For continuity purposes, each executive department and agency is assigned to a category in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities in support of the Federal Government’s ability to sustain the NEFs. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall serve as the President’s lead agent for coordinating overall continuity operations and activities of executive departments and agencies, and in such role shall perform the responsibilities set forth for the Secretary in sections 10 and 16 of this directive.
(8) The National Continuity Coordinator, in consultation with the heads of appropriate executive departments and agencies, will lead the development of a National Continuity Implementation Plan (Plan), which shall include prioritized goals and objectives, a concept of operations, performance metrics by which to measure continuity readiness, procedures for continuity and incident management activities, and clear direction to executive department and agency continuity coordinators, as well as guidance to promote interoperability of Federal Government continuity programs and procedures with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate. The Plan shall be submitted to the President for approval not later than 90 days after the date of this directive.
(9) Recognizing that each branch of the Federal Government is responsible for its own continuity programs, an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall ensure that the executive branch’s COOP and COG policies in support of ECG efforts are appropriately coordinated with those of the legislative and judicial branches in order to ensure interoperability and allocate national assets efficiently to maintain a functioning Federal Government.

There is more but the forum has limits
here is the full article

I take my hat off to who ever typed this - the grammer and spelling are perfect.

No nuke war. It’s not going to happen. Ever. Fire one and you’re dead, nobody is going to use them.

I do believe that the US probably has something to do with the Georgia-Russia conflict but meh.

You’re probably right Sandrew. However it doesn’t hurt to remind people what nukes can do. I suggest someone test detonates a nuke on the surface again. I know this was banned internationally, but it could go a long way to reminding people that the nuke is not some myth from the 1950s, and that it’s still very much a threat.

That was funny until I saw my name in it.

That made it kinda…


tsk tsk

I expected more…

Step it up…

Oh please, ropsta.
Number one – I’ve already apologised

(sorry, ropsta, the devil made me do it.)
and number two, I’ve cast myself as an overdressed white cat.

A white cat?

That makes it even more insulting.:no:

If this keeps up I’ll report BlenderArtists as an anti-wit/humor forum, and all my dim-witty buddies will destroy you!!!

I am an archangel and I will reign down pain on my enemies.

Is it the same old excuse again? Do something totally irrational and blame it on the US?

If they thought the US was behind it (…) then why not try to “outsmart” the United States by not giving in??