Streaming anime

Wow so much over something so little >.<

Anyways Im recompiling versions for the oringal size for members only to view. Viewing them is free, but downloading the file with its full quality wont be. Anyone can become a member to see the higher quality version. I’ll open up registration as soon as everything is uploaded.

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Anonmous User

  • View Low Quality
    Member
  • Veiw Higher Quality
    Member + Credits
  • Download Full Quality

Figure math here the average overcharge for a gig of bandwidth is $0.25 USD. Most of the full downloads are 200 megs thats 5 downloads for a $1.00 USD. So instead I’ll let them purchase credits. 100 credits = 1 USD and thats about 5 Downloads.

Now lets say that about 25% of the traffic will be from registered users just to see the bigger version of the videos. And the rest are from anomous users.

For 80 USD I can get 2,000 GIgs Bandwidth thats about 50,000 Low Quality Streams and thats the same as 28,500 Higher Qualty Streams. Given a 1/4 ratio thats about 37500 low streams and 7000 high streams. Now as far as ads go lets say 0.001 (1 out of 1000) each stream a user clicks on an Ad. Thats 44 clicks a month and if each click was 0.05 USD thats $2.20 USD profit for a server that costs 80.00 USD a month to run.

See where I’m going with this :stuck_out_tongue: Even if it was $3 USD a month that would not make a dent in the bill since close to no one will want to play it.

Some good news, my provider just upped my space and bandwidth from 10/100 to 200/2000 (space GB/ bandwidth GB). So now you can download (full quality) and watch (higer quality) versions for free (registered users only). I also doubled the size of the player of the lower quality shows. Its still the same size just scaled bigger.

Hopefully my ads will help expand to showing more. And I am still experimenting with FLV encoding. Right now the higher quality looks crappier then the low quality, but the subtitles are LOT more crisp and easier to read.

The only anime I really like is the Ghost in The Shell series. I find everything else to be far too emo.

That said, the site is impressive, and unlike that MMORPG idea a while back, I can actually see this one making out quite well.

Good job.

With UK copyright law, you ARE allowed to copy documents that are not available comercialy. You are allowed to make photocopies of books that are out of print, and hard to find. Here in the UK, I’m alowed to use your web-site!

:slight_smile: sweet

I’ve spent all last night recompiling and testing flv quality and my DSL downloads at 128KBs so I tried to optimize it around that. How well it streams is dependent on how free the server is. This morning I was only able to get 40 KBs but as I got to work to try I got the needed amount to stream the high quality.

Anyways here is a snapshot of the quality difference:

Low 30+ KBs:
http://74.52.178.146/~animerei/images/low_quality.png
High 120+ KBs:
http://74.52.178.146/~animerei/images/high_quality.png

Where did you read that? Living in the UK and personally having a good knowledge of copyright law, that is the first time I’ve ever heard that. Having read the UK government’s site for copyright / IP many times, I can’t recall anything like that.

A photograph of your pet cat IS copyrighted to you, Commercialisation has nothing to do with it. If you create a song or poem, that means other people can’t just come along and decide to give it to other people. Fair use does come into play here and there, but in terms of what wutabi is doing, that is a no no.

Making backups are perfectly legal, which it sound like you are refering to, but you still need to originally own the item, i.e. own a “license” or have been granted the permission to do so… Additionally, in terms of education i.e. schools they are freely allowed to photocopy books and so on and give them to students. This includes an array of items, not just books. Again, it sounds as if you have mixed this up with the entire public, rather than just schools etc…

With copyright, after a certain period which is basically 50 (or 70) years after the copyright holder’s death… It becomes public. Also, the fact that there are many item in the public domain already, adding to the confusion when these items are given away freely. Most notible for this, are the items given away in newspapers i.e. the really old DVDs/CDs, they’ve are doing alot recently (not necessairly all of them, but i know quite a few are public domain).

Here in the UK, you are not allowed to use his website, however, sutabi is generally the one that will be penalised for it all.

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wow, with all this copy write stuff, why doesn’t he add ads for the initial licenser onto the streaming show, and fill the parent page with links to the licenser/owner’s website. that way, if they want to buy the show they just saw, they go to the owner’s website, and buy their product. i don’t know about anyone else here, but watching streaming anime from your computer is rather uncomfortable.

if you can’t download the show, watching it at your leisure is a no-no, and you have to be online and stream it to watch, which is a pain. and unless you have a really comfy compy chair, it’s gonna hurt. so, most people would desire watching it on a tv instead, and they would need to buy the dvd to do that (or use screen capture software that works fast enough to copy an entire movie, at which point now they’re really stealing).

in either case, load the page with links, enforce the fact that you don’t own them, and don’t let people download the content, 'cause then you’re screwed. maybe if you’re lucky, instead of being slapped with a “Cease and Desist” you’ll be hit up for a potential content distribution partnership.

sorry if that was all a load of crap. but it sounded nice and reasonable in my head…

Thats the problem once someone sees it, why in the world would they buy it? Why watch it on tv when you already seen it? Thats the major issue that is showing from fansubs, it helps boost sales from higher quality anime, but middle to crappy ones do even worst.

The japanese companies can only tell fansubs to stop distrubing their work in most cases they do and when its liscenced most fansubs stop anyways leaving very little room for the liscnecers to react. Major sites like AnimeSuki get countless letters all which they comply with. I intend to do the very same.

As far as helping to promote japanese merchandise. I gave it a round, I’ve yet ran into a decent affilate system, and its hard to go on to a japanese site and ask the owner to let me advertise their stuff on my site. At most I can do is import the japanese dvds or find a way to make a deal with a fansub group and the animation company.

I read it in a beginners guide to copyright law - not exactly conclusive I know and I was going to alaborate…

The example that was givern was someone who photocopied part of a rare and out of print book for there own personal use. I think is was for educational perposes as well (they were researching an essay) but I’m not sure if that makes a differance. I don’t think, however, this makes it remotely legal to distribute rare stuff in mass quantaties! And are you getting paid for the adverts on your site? that means your acctualy proffiting for your piracy which makes what you are doing far worse.

your only hope is that the anime DO turn a blind eye towards your project.

This is Jack from OWD. I noticed that you were using my template, and I want royalties!! :smiley: (free membership…hint hint)

but seriously, I’m glad someone is getting use out of my stuff. I love how the video res is nice and big.

I’m not too knowledgeable on the whole copyright issue, but as a fan of anime I have watched tons of fansubs. The problem is that a lot of good anime just doesn’t get distributed here, or like GIS SSS movie won’t be here until I’ve lost interest. Just can’t wait a year to see the dam thing…

Jack I credited you and linked directly to your site, also I sent you a PM.

I’ve also uploaded the 50th video and added a bit more to the pages including RSS feeds, adding comments to episodes, a test for manga. Plus I am thinking depending on how well this site goes, I might use the money made from this site to contests, but that probably wont be for months.