I don’t mean to drop the ads first, rather to do the annual campaign first, saying if we get enough funds we could.
I don’t don’t have any real say in the matter, but personally, I’d rather avoid that. It’s one of the things that really annoys me on the occasion that I have to visit Wikipedia. It never feels annual. It feels perpetual… and in-your-face annoying… moreso than ads.
Yeah I understand. I’m not against the use of ads here personally (it just depends a bit on what ads though. It would be nice to see some open hardware companies like Purism, System76 or Lulzbot from time to time and less closed-source software).
To my knowledge there’s no perpetual fundraiser campaign on Wikipedia though. Even if you don’t donate it lasts a good week and then it’s away for the rest of the year so I’m not sure why you said perpetual. Anyway Wikipedia was not a very good example because their campaign, while being annual, is quite invasive, not so good looking and almost moralizing and begging you when they’re actually doing more than fine. So I wasn’t thinking of doing the exact same thing. Rather something visually appealing, with some good CG image made for the occasion. I should have used the example of the Code Quest instead.
This is perhaps something we could discuss in a closed topic, i too have several things i’d like to bring up regarding the site that i think will improve the overall user experience.
Perhaps this is a good time to engage in that conversation?
On a side note, i do like the idea of an annual donation event, however perhaps do something more with it, like link it to an anual BA contest with prices? I dunno, i also agree with Fweeb’s “inn your face” argument. So its difficult indeed.
You guys should be way more shameless. If most users realized your Patreon is only getting 45$ a month, they’d probably be more willing to donate. But when they can’t see it, they think it’s probably fine.
You should really put some kind of Patreon status widget/direct link on the homepage somewhere.
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Why no Gumroad ?
There is no integration between Discourse and Gumroad available yet.
I see, that makes sense. thanks
Noticed the big orange ‘donate’ link today. I was surprised by how few people are supporting like this. My income is rather irregular at the moment, so I’m afraid I can only go for the lowest tier, but I’d imagine every little helps. TBH I don’t mind seeing appropriate adverts either though. This site and Blender Nation are both whitelisted on my Adblocker as it is, although Blender Nation still “complains” about it
Thanks John! I’m aware of the issue on BN, I hope to get that fixed this week.
Hi @bartv, are there also alternative channels for donations, other than Patreon?
Hey Metin! I stopped taking small donations through PayPal as the accounting costs were just too high. I still accept PayPal for larger donations though (You could do a yearly support that way, for example). Alternatively you could buy me a beer some time - we still live around the corner!
Thanks @bartv. The thing is that I have recently deleted my Patreon account because I wasn’t doing anything with it. On top of that, I’ve heard that European citizens are forced to pay 21% VAT on top of their Patreon donations, or could that be solved if I enter my company’s VAT number?
And having a beer on an Amsterdam terrace, or maybe at the Blender Institute sounds good!
How can I get you paypal account? I don´t want to get a patreon account and give out my information to yet another company.
It depends on the amount, for smaller donations I don’t accept PayPal anymore because my accounting costs were more than the donation PM me if you want details.
I was hesitating because I was unsure of what article 13 (now 17) will bring for us.
Now that I see we keep on going… Well, count me in
Edit: $20 donated. Good for a year.
I’m still getting banner ads even when I’m a Patreon supporter.
Seems it’s kind of random. Sometimes ads pop up, sometimes they stay away.
Also it probably would be better to add a real Patreon button up there so people wouldn’t have to dig through this thread to know that it actually exists. I bet many people would happily join if they just knew about it. I’m much less likely to hit any donation button as I will assume it’s only a one time thing.