# Text objects are invisible behind transparent objects, any way how to negate it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Game Engine Support and Discussion\ **Tags:** bge\ **Created:** [May 14, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849 "2022-05-14T15:25:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/u/Saranoske)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/1 "2022-05-14T15:25:59Z")
I have a problem with text objects. They are not visible behind other objects that are transparent. It seems I can’t even apply any materials and set the Alpha Blend. Nor I can’t set the Face Orientation. Is there any way how to do it? ---
**Author:** ![RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/user_avatar/blenderartists.org/rpaladin/32/981579_2.png) [@RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/u/RPaladin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 5:31pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/2 "2022-05-14T17:31:33Z")
![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/e/c/6/ec64b4382209700cc895466a9699628c251b0aef.png) > [@Saranoske](#): > > They are not visible behind other objects that are transparent. It is for me? > [@Saranoske](#): > > It seems I can’t even apply any materials and set the Alpha Blend. You can set dynamic text color by enabling `Object Color` in the Materials tab: ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/7/c/e/7ce75f75a9100cab234a89452bfd4b372ac4be4d.png) And setting an object color in the Object tab: ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/7/6/f/76f7daa15c4a2c73de71f16e0892040acbb21884.png) > [@Saranoske](#): > > Nor I can’t set the Face Orientation. You can by converting your dynamic text to a static mesh: ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/a/a/6/aa6eb4a93bf68ca74ba6827559ba8e8f66f8e8bd.png) You could also substitute all of your text objects to BLF text with the BLF module. ---
**Author:** ![Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/u/Saranoske)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/3 "2022-05-14T18:19:02Z")
Thank you for your tips. I know nothing about the BLF module, I have to find out what it does. For transparency, I’m using Object color Alpha and for some reason, the text object is not visible behind that object. ---
**Author:** ![BluePrintRandom](https://blenderartists.org/user_avatar/blenderartists.org/blueprintrandom/32/598195_2.png) [@BluePrintRandom](https://blenderartists.org/u/BluePrintRandom)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/4 "2022-05-14T18:22:22Z")
Why do we always assume 2.5x? What version of upbge / bge are you using? ---
**Author:** ![RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/user_avatar/blenderartists.org/rpaladin/32/981579_2.png) [@RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/u/RPaladin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/5 "2022-05-14T18:47:39Z")
> [@BluePrintRandom](#): > > Why do we always assume 2.5x? He mentioned Face Orientation, a BGE option that is only found in legacy versions. Maybe you should actually read peoples posts before you jump to conclusions… ---
**Author:** ![RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/user_avatar/blenderartists.org/rpaladin/32/981579_2.png) [@RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/u/RPaladin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/6 "2022-05-14T18:51:54Z")
> [@Saranoske](#): > > I know nothing about the BLF module, I have to find out what it does. It’s a font drawing module for Blender. Docs: [https://upbge.org/#/documentation/docs/latest/api/blf.html](https://upbge.org/#/documentation/docs/latest/api/blf.html) For example, in this game project of mine, I used only BLF to draw my text. Zero text objects: [![](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/9/3/0/93035f231e2008c5c551bea6d0ab2373fb7bf21c.jpeg "LMF | UPBGE | FPS Realistic | #2") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_vkZjnbBFc) BLF is completely customizable and can work with BGE variables in-tandem. You can also easily setup font alignment as well, etc. It also doesn’t render poor resolution like text objects do in legacy versions. > [@Saranoske](#): > > For transparency, I’m using Object color Alpha and for some reason, the text object is not visible behind that object. In order for Object Color: Alpha to work, you need to have the actual transparency setting enabled. If that doesn’t work as well, please share a reproducible blend file so that others can take a look at it. ## Transparency disabled ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/6/8/4/6843e63753fa12aeda99df97fb0de0a243a80c2a.png) ## Transparency enabled ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/3/d/4/3d4ca02444da69037435f9cb99f28fa6219f8af5.png) ---
**Author:** ![Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/u/Saranoske)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/7 "2022-05-14T22:30:35Z")
Thank you, turning on the transparency helped. But for some reason even without transparency turned on, I could use object color Alpha to make the objects transparent and with the right Alpha Blend on materials, it worked. But not for a text object. ---
**Author:** ![Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/u/Saranoske)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/8 "2022-05-14T22:31:07Z")
I’m using bge 2.79b. ---
**Author:** ![RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/user_avatar/blenderartists.org/rpaladin/32/981579_2.png) [@RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/u/RPaladin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/9 "2022-05-14T22:58:33Z")
> [@Saranoske](#): > > But not for a text object. Do you require anymore assistance? ---
**Author:** ![Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/u/Saranoske)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/10 "2022-05-14T23:05:33Z")
I appreciate your help a lot, thank you. Maybe I won’t need it but is it possible to set the text as a billboard? ---
**Author:** ![RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/user_avatar/blenderartists.org/rpaladin/32/981579_2.png) [@RPaladin](https://blenderartists.org/u/RPaladin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/11 "2022-05-14T23:20:27Z")
> [@Saranoske](#): > > is it possible to set the text as a billboard? With a dynamically text object, no. With a converted text object to mesh, yes. 1. CTRL + C while selecting a text object. ![](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/6/5/1/651742cb37a9a23fc1de2a47457d1c9e7d207a4f.png) 1. Once converted to mesh, go into edit-mode and rotate your object so that it’s facing the **positive** X-axis. 2. Enable “Face Orientation” type: **Billboard** , for your converted mesh. ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/2/5/a/25ad3d4cce769d9898aa55c9384b78c09b6b29b1.png) * * * The orientation should look something like this: ## Non-Runtime ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/a/0/3/a03128476fb865bd075d0afee6584fd0e9f4cff9.png) ## Runtime ![image](https://blenderartists.org/uploads/default/original/4X/4/e/e/4eee6d357163c9d53c2e395d38f997f8aa4b009e.png) ---
**Author:** ![Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@Saranoske](https://blenderartists.org/u/Saranoske)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 9:25am UTC](https://blenderartists.org/t/text-objects-are-invisible-behind-transparent-objects-any-way-how-to-negate-it/1379849/12 "2022-05-15T09:25:53Z")
Thank you but since the text is constantly changing, this is not an option for me.