Geez, it’s taken long enough but I just got a hand-me-down system and I thought that it would be good fun to install a Linux OS on there.
edit; The one I’m trying is VectorLinux, just because I like the word ‘vector.’
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I actually now am trying Peanut Linux, because I couldn’t get the xfree GUI correctly configured on the first try and I downloaded both distrobutions while finding out about Linux.
This machine is a bit older 533mhz celeron 312ram 40gigHD, but it should make me more than a bit familiar to the most favouritest alternitive OS that nonMAC users use.
Painful indeed/ I still am struggling to get blender to load on this machine!!
I searched for the solution in the forums but I saw alot of ‘update your video drivers’ and all that lot. But this lil beast only has a standard Intel video card, which is probobly at least 4 years old, so I don’t know.
Well, actually I’m not familiar with this Peanut-Linux you have, and unless you give us a little more information about the conditions under which Blender “doesn’t work” on your box, I will have to assume that it can be anything…
It is not necessary to be the video card drivers… But in any case if you need new drivers for your card, you may get them if you update your XFree86… What version is your’s???
You could be missing some libraries as well…
I’ll tell you what…
Why don’t you try one of the major Linux distros??? Such as, RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, etc. They are pretty well compact distros, with smooth installation procedure… Almost everything works o.k. “out of the box”…
I’ve been using SuSE for 4 years and recently tried Mandrake… Never experienced serious problems… Blender worked pretty well with my previous video card (ATI XPERT@PLAY) on SuSE… Never needed updated drivers (not that ATI provides any serious Linux support, but anyway…).
Yeas, I had to buy a mouse for this computer and went to CompUSA, While I was there I saw both the SuSE and Redhat boxed OSs and was tempted to pick one up, but didn’t because I am cheap. Peanut was a free distro, the .iso only being 340mb.
PeanutLinux9.5 KDE3 Xfree86v4.3.x cvs
OpenGL does work on it as there are several screensavers on it that implement it.
When I attempt from the terminal;
bash: /home/AROtotheN/blender/blender: cannot execute binary file
When I attempt from the desktop shortcut;
The icon blinks as though it’s trying to load and blender gets a slot in the taskbar, but after about 30secs the comp gives up and they dissapear.
"When I attempt from the terminal;
bash: /home/AROtotheN/blender/blender: cannot execute binary file "
My guess is either:
blender is not executable.
chmod +x /home/AROtotheN/blender/blender
the blender executable is corrupted. Download it again or recompile
missing a library.
ldd /home/AROtotheN/blender/blender
and make sure they’re all there.
"When I attempt from the desktop shortcut;
The icon blinks as though it’s trying to load and blender gets a slot in the taskbar, but after about 30secs the comp gives up and they dissapear. "
That’s because it’s printing bash: blah blah cannot execute binary file and exiting.
Last week I installed RH 9 & Windows XP on my dad’s computer.
RH9 was a breeze, except for the video driver. I installed in text mode.
WinXP was a nightmare. It couldn’t find the (SATA) hdd. It wouldn’t even load from the driver CD. I had to find and install a floppy drive and copy the drivers from the CD to a floppy disk. Yuk.
Thanks for all the help, Timonides and alien-xmp! I just downloaded BlenderPublisher from Blender3d.org and I was able to execute it without trouble. I think that I need to use the 2.28i386 distro for linux, and not the ppc? Anyway the i386 was the only one available for the Publisher, and it’s working.
Some distrobutions aren’t free, or the downloads aren’t disk images that will let you install from cd. I kinda like this one, superlight! Thanks for the headsup though, A_C, but 3cds sounds like alot.
“I just downloaded BlenderPublisher from Blender3d.org and I was able to execute it without trouble. I think that I need to use the 2.28i386 distro for linux, and not the ppc? Anyway the i386 was the only one available for the Publisher, and it’s working.”
Yes that would be it. ppc is compiled for PowerPC cpus (Macs) and i386 is for Intel (and compatible)
peanut linux? never heard of it? MDK-based? …i’m more the slackware/gentoo guy :] …gotta love portage in gentoo (blender gets installed from source using only: “emerge blender”) …and larry the cow
Well, eventually, you’ll find yourself in the need of “this or the other” useful library… Then when you’ll understand what pain is to try to download, compile and install something that needs a couple of thousand more other exotic libraries in order to work and start cursing the day you decided to mess with that damned thing ( :P), then you’ll understand that you want a more complete distro…
Then you’ll go and download one of the major distros (SuSE, RedHat or Mandrake etc.)…
You just postpone the innevitable…
You’ll be MINE in the end…
Good luck with your new toy… Use it to learn and have fun with it…
Actually I haven’t even thought of compiling software yet. I was even afraid to try out Linux at first because I have next to no experience using commandline functions. I have gotten a bit better since I started this experiment, so that is encouraging!!
galen, the administrator at the Peanut Linux Support Furum call the major distrobutions ‘bloatware,’ but I could probably switch at some point if I need to, this computer has a 40gigHD.
Me and the boys of AD!HQ have kicked around the idea of ‘downgrading’ our XP network to a Win98se network. Maybe it would be neat to have an all Linux network.
BTW, silver_hook, I couldn’t tell you whether or not it is MDK-based, I don’t know what that means.
You know Mandrake has this neat feature called URPMI. It allows you to install packages (if available) and automatically finds all dependencies for those packages and asks if you want to install them. It requires some configuration, but it allowed me to get Cinelerra, Kino, and several other programs installed and working that I’ve been having trouble with.
These live CDs are cool and fun but, if you plan on using linux seriously, I would get a major distro with everything available. I’ve used Suse, RedHat, and Mandrake. I like Mandrake the best.
i thought if it was based on the Mandrake (MDK) distro …most distros are “just” forks of major distros or at least based on them.
As for the libraries, if your distro needs you to compile these yourself, or their package system doesn’t use dependancies, then, i agree with Timonides, you’ll have a fun time at some point or the other …most distros are like that.
this is where Gentoo and it’s portage pops up …Gentoo’s portage handles depdendancies like noone else …all you have to do is type: emerge <name_of_app> and it’ll compile from source it and all its dependancies.
also the upside from compiling from source is that you can optimise the app to completely suit your needs (no need to be a hacker/coder here!) …with a few compiler flags you can do wonders!! (like --with-qt --without-gtk) …and in gentoo all you need to do is store all those options and your computer/processor architecture into a single file (/etc/make.conf) and it’ll use it automatically every time you emerge (=compile the gentoo way) an app …also compiling from source usually means you get the app as it should be, and you can get it the second it’s brought out (which is the case with Gentoo in most cases)
the downside of compiling (by emerge, or by hand) is, of course, the time it takes the PC to translate the code from source to binary (can also be shortened by compiler flags).
well, if you reconsider it …at least think about gentoo …and the community is THE best one i’ve seen so far (sorry elYsiun, it’s true!) …REALLY helpful and tollerant.
Gentoo has it’s own “full CDs” …precompiled 2 CD sets are available at http://store.gentoo.org along with a manual (only 15$) …but i still prefere the livecd idea.
gentoo not major? distrowatch ( http://www.distrowatch.com ) has it under both “major” and “source-based” …it’s on the 3rd place in the major group (and AFAIR the second in popularity) …also the no.1 favourite distro of Novell :] …well, i think that’s about it …didn’t want to rant, but gentoo just isn’t a minor distro. …mandrake is good and i recomend it, but not my cup of tea …i like my apps compiled and optimised from source (which i recomend even more)
quote from distrowatch
Gentoo Linux is a versatile and fast, completely free Linux distribution geared towards developers and network professionals. Unlike other distros, Gentoo Linux has an advanced package management system called Portage. Portage is a true ports system in the tradition of BSD ports, but is Python-based and sports a number of advanced features including dependencies, fine-grained package management, “fake” (OpenBSD-style) installs, safe unmerging, system profiles, virtual packages, config file management, and more.
i checked out Peanut on distrowatch and it looks like a .rpm (MDK, RH) based distro …also distrowatch ways it’s one of the best distros for noobies that just switched from win* …so if you’re happy with it, stick to it, untill you want more control over it, then reconsider going for a source-based distro.
Welcome to Linux. I’m almost exlusively using it at home now. It can be very frustrating trying to get stuff to work at first, but very worthwhile.
I recommend checking out www.justlinux.com and www.linuxquestions.org . Both are BBS sites, and I search them whenever I’m having a problem I can’t get my head around.
Of course, it was Blender and the Blender community that got me into Linux in the first place.
