5 steps to end poverty and elevate mankind

Nations exist for a reason,
Some people just don’t get along.

That’s a problem that will NEVER be solved

“Nations exist for a reason”

The reason is the past, should be left behind.
But: there are no solutions for eliminating poverty without force, eugenics and changing the rules cultures play along.

Poverty can not be eliminated as it is a relative measure, not absolute. Equality can not be maintained because people are not equal neiter in abilities nor desires and forcing it makes forcers unequal compared to those being forced. The thought that people can be equal, everyone can agree and there can be an end on (place your favourite world trouble here) is inherently flawed. We would have more success in turning all animals into vegans than solving these problems in any reasonable timeframe.

Solar cells has their place in an energetic plan for a nation, but no nations with any significant industry and western-type lifestyle could base their energy needs on solar cells only.

yeah tell me about it we have one of the longest revers on the world ,with the most technology dam in all Africa and yet wee have electricity Cut,s every 2 day,s for the last 2 month,s the government don’t want to do anything to solve the problem, Saudi Arabia, give us generator Turkey gave u2 like 3 other,s but still

Poverty is both relative and absolute measure. Absolute if you measure it in an absolute system (access of basic needs such clean water, health, housing, etc.). The problem is - as we saw it in practice in developing countries - without things I mentioned poverty recreates itself in absolute measure.

Yes, these are future dreams of forgotten, mistreated past… see, some can’t even comprehend tolerance, equality among humanity. Different beliefs, cultures, religions… Poor are you who imagine that thinking is connecting replicated thoughts, repeating words without any understanding, comprehension or experience…
Is a person that you are in love with, equal to you, brother, sister?
Than why you insist on being right, better, master?!

While one can’t even save self, yet believes it is able to come up with a plan to save others.

Look inside you, when was the last time you helped out a person in need which you considered an enemy of yours?

Poverty is a word, constructed to divide, so believers feel save in commodity of faith, system of belief. Greed is poverty. Using power to control is weakness.

Fear not, your country is not the only country with the “my government is too lazy to build roads,power plants,etc” narrative
It’s spread out across Central,East and West Africa

Here’s the thing,

Don’t wait until your government suddenly wises up,
Complain to your governor

I mean, It is a democracy right?(I think it is?)

Also Dams can not power the whole country

You have to have several power stations spread across the country

Equality between human beings never existed in absolute measure. Never. If it will exists anytime in the future, that will come from science, because human beings are not equal by default. We born different with different skills, intelligence, family and society backgrounds, etc. What should be exist, the equality in generic rights, in access of knowledge, etc.

The problem is that somehow people are very misguided about human kind as a species, about our technological/financial possibilities, etc.
Actually we are heading for a new fall. We don’t evolve, just our tools evolve.

“Using power to control is weakness.”

Using power to control is the only way what is efficient among all typical circumstances, on all people. That is why police and military use force in every country.

@Alma

Yes we do evolve

You really think that we were just ignorant as we were in 1700 when we thought people with different skin tones as us are inferior to others?

I don’t think, I know. Unfortunately. If you just look around in the world (actual conflicts or conflicts from the last 20 years), human kind never evolved morally or in their thinking. The way human beings see and "understand’’ the world has nothing to do with reality.

Let me say it differently. Changing an ancient tribal religion to a more popular or widespread religion is not evolution. Evolution is rational thinking based on facts and proofs. People suck at facts and suck on thinking, they prefer having a ‘faith’ about the world, because it is more comfortable or they simple do not have the skills to understand what happens around them.

Sounds like you might be one of those who dream of a new world order where the UN runs everything and authors every law, basically creating a singular one-size-fits-all government that is forced upon the people whether they like it or not.

Now here’s the thing, if this ‘new order’ is supposed to run the world based on facts, then by whose definition of facts do we go with, who controls what facts are and what aren’t? I ask that because if we had a one-world government, then someone will still be at the top and will likely have unfettered power as to what values the world should or should not have and what you can and cannot do. From what I’ve read, the majority of people who have that that opinion regarding how society should be run are also those who think that those who disagree with them should be ostracized, removed from society, or worse (and we know from 20th century events that things can get pretty bad if the state appoints itself as ‘the one and only keeper of truth’).

Science, real meritocracy. There are now other proven tools for making things better.

Couldn’t have said it better,

though,

you are missing a deus ex reference :wink:

@Alma

There’s no such thing as a “real meritocracy”

As we can’t measure skill objectively.

Of course there is no 100% percent real meritocracy.
But as a goal would do the job, instead if the current system where everyone’s vote is equal and people could only win elections with being popular among idiots, then choosing specialist by irrational reasons.

But there’s also such a thing as junk science or science without merit, the world of science is also well known for having a lot of studies that flat out contradict each other.

Now by whose definition would be go with in determining what is ‘sound science’, because there is no shortage of groups who claim that the science backs their views on various matters and some who even have ‘scientists’ ready to do ‘research’ with the intent on pushing their claims.

Not that basing society on someone’s subjective nature on what science is would make the world better. Going back to the 20th century, you find numerous cases of terrible things that happened because the science apparently showed that such a thing was permissible and perhaps even an imperative.

‘But there’s also such a thing as junk science or science without merit, the world of science is also well known for having a lot of studies that flat out contradict each other.’

So what? Our society/economy systems are completely without merit as they mostly based on beliefs/faith.Our politicians are elected by faith, not rationality. Our laws based on beliefs.Our complete system is a slow, non-adaptive, unsustainable crap.

‘the world of science is also well known for having a lot of studies that flat out contradict each other’

That is why multiple groups work on the same things. The problem is when politics comes to science.Another thing: do you really think because science cannot answer all the questions in a sec we should go with a system what does not give a crap on facts, because the mass doesn’t like facts?

'Not that basing society on someone’s subjective nature on what science is would make the world better. ’
I didn’t get this.

‘Going back to the 20th century, you find numerous cases of terrible things that happened because the science apparently showed that such a thing was permissible and perhaps even an imperative.’

And no terrible things happened before science came to our life?Your lifestyle, maybe your whole existence is the result of science.It is a tool, a way of seeing and examining the world, managing things, but it is not a magic wand.And to be honest, even with its limitations works far better than any other tool.