Blender 4.0 - VSE Speed Factor removed - need workaround

Hi,

In Blender 3.6, the Speed Factor was located under the “Time” menu, but in Blender 4.0, I couldn’t find it there.

In the previous version, it was possible to adjust the Speed Factor as desired, and the Movie Strip would automatically adapt to the new speed. In Blender 4.0, this seems not to be the case anymore. Now, I need to add the Speed Factor as an effect. However, this leads to a problem: the Movie Strip does not change its size automatically but remains as large as before.

An additional issue is that, after adding the effect, I am unable to cut the Movie Strip. If I do so the video will reset after the cut. In Blender 3.6, it was possible to cut the Movie Strip without any issues.

My goal is to speed up a video with a specific Factor and after that I want to cut it as needed. This was so easy in Blender 3.6.

Now I have to search for the point where I would cut the strip and move the other video to this point and I also have this ugly endless strip in the timeline. It works but it was a way cleaner workflow in Blender 3.6.

Does anyone have an idea on how to fix this problem?

Here a short video to show you the problem:

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Can you try ADD > Effect Strip > Speed control…

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Why was this changed?

Is there some meaningful reason why this had to change?

can’t remember the exact reason it was changed, but 4.0 now has retiming keys, have you checked those?
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it will show the speed transform in the strip itself

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Welcome.

Release notes here.

Pertinent quote:

Retiming also supports smoothly transitioning from one speed to another. Transitions can be created by right clicking on a key, or from retiming menu and choosing Add Speed Transition. Freeze frames can be added similar to transition keys.

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Just be aware that accidentally adding a speed transition to the last key will crash blender (for me at least)

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Did you read my initial post or watched the video? Of course I tried that.

Oh yeah thats close to 3.6. But I prefer a factor I can control. Maybe this feature is hidden somewhere? The speed effect method would be ok too but I need to cut the strip afterwards but that seems not to work with an active effect. Is it possible to apply the effect to the strip so I can edit it afterwards?

Hum, it seems to work, the only difference is that you have to drag the key to the desired length rather than setting a factor value in the UI…

When cutting after being set globally the speed factor stays unchanged :

Therefore it’s possible to cut the clip as you wish, or I’m missing something there…

you can set the factor with R or context menu. Only animating isn’t possible. Guess that’s what the transition is for

Yes I’m talking about the effect not the retiming keys.

The problem with the effect: I can’t cut it.

The problem with retiming keys: It’s not precise enough for the value I wan’t to put in.

That’s just the % value and it’s as precise as if I drag the keyframe per hand. Not enough.

I don’t understand. Is it really less precise than the speed factor? In your example video you sped it up to 149.7
Where is the difference to setting the speed to 14970% with the new system?

I can’t set it to 14970%. It snaps to 14999 and 14947.

press r to set a value or use the strip>retiming menu

It IS still buggy though. I have experienced some strangeness. Importing one and the same clip (59.94 fps) into blender 3.6 and 4 once had a discrepancy of 1 frame and sometimes the speed menu showed me random values when it should have just been 100%

I don’t know man, watch the video…that’s exactly what I try.

Thanks for all of the info. For my use it’s annoying, but not the end of the world. Just a relearn I wasn’t expecting.

Having said that, the “Speed” effect no longer works on audio strips, which put a kink in my pipeline. Now I need to outsource to an audio application to do something that I was able to do in 3.6

Unless I’m missing something else from release notes found in a basement posted months ago…

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Sorry, I somehow completely missed that. There have been some bugfixes for VSE retiming in the last days. Maybe it has been resolved. But If you still get different frame results in the newer version of blender, report it as a bug. It shouldn’t behave different than the old method.

Seems like audio strips have been switched to retiming keys too.

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Thanks for all of the info.

I’m actually trying to do the same thing. I add a speed control effect, then when I attempt to cut it, it restarts, and I thought it was because you’re actually changing the length of the clip (in this case creating two clips with different lengths) so it’s restarting, that is, since it’s shorter it’s making it faster, instead of just cutting where you want to cut. I want to edit out some things, without having to render the video out twice – I’ve looked at the retiming keys and have no clue as to how they work. Any suggestions?