How can I change the scrollbar width and visibility in Blender 2.8?
I realize it’s currently a trendy thing in user interfaces to have the scrollbar width be extremely skinny and also hidden unless you mouse over that skinny area. But I find this to have terrible usability in practice. The skinny scrollbar makes it difficult to click precisely on the scrollbar if you’re using a Wacom tablet. The hidden-by-default nature of the scrollbar makes it difficult to discover that there’s actually more information available than what’s currently being shown. And since the discoverability area is so skinny, it’s difficult to hover over that precise area and discover if you actually indeed have a scrollbar there!
For a point of comparison, here’s an earlier version of Blender…
Yes, for me the disappearing narrow scrollbar is a step back in usability. No visual cue, and too narrow to quickly click on it.
It bugs me especially in the outliner. If I have a long list of collections and objects, I don’t want to scroll endlessly with the mouse wheel. The scrollbar is then too narrow, you really have to be careful not click on the “disable object in render” icons.
I have the same issue. Setting the color to white would solve it for me. It’s way too easy to lose sight of it visually.
I tried making a patch for this, but the problem is that the scrollbar color is the same as the timeline. So if you set scrollbar color to white, it messes some other areas in Blender that aren’t actually scrollbars. It seems Blender doesn’t actually have individual scrollbars as UI elements, but two for each pane instead. Some of them are used for other purposes outside being scrollbars.
Skinny scrollbar only works if you can drag to scroll as well as manipulate it directly. You can’t go all “mobile UI” without understanding the design decisions…
I don’t think so. I said “hidden-by-default” to mean that you can’t see the scrollbar by default – you need to hover the mouse over the area of where the scrollbar would be to discover if there’s a scrollbar at all.
I hate it. Can’t always tell by just looking at a group of panels if there is overflow unless I move the mouse near to make the scrollbar visible or I can see UI elements getting cut off.
There should be an option make scrollbars always visible and part of the flow as before, or add some kind of shade effect to the top/bottom/sides IF content is clipped. Simple shade or shadows make it easy to tell what is on top or below, but I guess that is yet another thing that the shitty flat UI trend has butchered. Hidden controls being worse.
Also on the subject of scrollbars: they should be removed from the node editor view just like the image/uv editor.
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The text editor has a thicker scrollbar than the rest and it’s always visible lol
It doesn’t sound like anybody likes this UI behavior. Where’s the best place to make a suggestion to the devs to provide an option for changing the scrollbar width and visibility?
surely. The developer said.
Use the middle button click instead of the scroll bar.
but. the alternatives sometimes cause a pain in the middle finger even with a pen tablet.
we hope that there is really an adjustment of the scroll bar width.
I’d probably double the width if I’d have the option.
