Basically a few main bones then a set which fan off (using copy rotations) to do the feathers and the actual deforming is done by bones running laterally with stretch tos and maintain volumes. My hope was that these would help if fold up. While it works OK for flying I couldn’t fold the wing sideways.
thanks guys! if I have a minute next week I’ll have another shot at it. I read to day that herons flaps their wings around twice a second, crows around 3-4 times per second, pigeons around 8. I tried adding body bounce before but it looked too busy - I guess thats partially because my flapping was much too slow -on a real crow the body bounce is happening so many times a second that you don’t notice it so much? Something like a heron or a swan you really see the body bounce with the long neck and slow flapping.
thanks for the crits, any rigging tips from anyone whos rigged a bird before?