Always shocking to load up only to find nudes spread across my display. Glad my wife wasn’t looking over my shoulder.
Yeah, I know that someone at some point finds and marks them as such. Maybe add a big ol’ check box on the Create a new Topic popup that reads ☐ NSFW?
“Don’t be a prude” and “It’s just art” and “Well, you are on an art forum” arguments are BS, so don’t bother making them. The lady sitting in the next cubicle over while I’m taking a lunch break isn’t going to be swayed by those arguments, nor is my manager, nor my manager’s manager. Even for those who work in the art industry. (Can you imagine sitting at Disney looking at nudes in front of your female co-workers? Yeah. Me either.)
“So then don’t look at BA while at work” is also a BS argument. Some of us have jobs where looking at art is kind of required.
Whether or not I like looking at nudes is also irrelevant.
I understand that I cannot control other people’s behavior. I’m not trying to. ’Cause for some reason people who like nudes/violence/hate speech seem to think it is their business in life to introduce that imagery to others as often as possible.
That’s what this post is about. That’s what I don’t get.
Can you clarify which post has NSFW content but isn’t tagged?
Side-note: if you’re worried about NSFW content, you can turn “blur NSFW” on in your settings- it’s on by default, actually, so the only way you’re seeing nudes pop up on your screen at work from BA is if you have that setting turned off
The safest bet if it’s really a concern is to avoid sites that might have nudity at work, this being one of them. There are other art sites that don’t allow nudity that may be better suited for work use
I don’t like violence and hate speech at all. But I have absolutely no problem with nudity. I would assume this is heavily influenced by the cultural and social background.
If you have a job that requires looking at art your co-workers and managers would be able to realize that sometimes art depicts nudity. So, which is it, old man?
Yep, it’s on. I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about posters posting without the nsfw tag when their work is clearly nsfw.
…is if people don’t tag their work and whatever person or algorithm catches them hasn’t caught them yet. Happens all the time.
You’ve missed the point.
I was just curious after pulling BA up this morning and having three big “red” nudes pop up. Sure, they’re blurred now, but they absolutely weren’t when I loaded up the page and my wife was standing right there while she was getting dressed for the day, so, I honestly don’t need any unsolicited help seeing a gorgeous naked woman.
Not sure which artwork set this off—all the NSFW stuff I’ve seen crop up has had the appropriate tags and therefore been blurred (except in the unfortunate cases where a NSFW image comes up where my cursor happens to be placed).
However, I can’t help but feel that this should have led with the site policy link instead of having it overshadowed by pre-emptively having a go at other people’s potential arguments. At the end of the day, policy trumps all other arguments, but the framing of this post is near guaranteed to get people’s backs up and result in Devil’s Advocate style responses for various points.
He’s probably referring to those three red torso nudes that were posted earlier this morning. Originally they were not tagged but they are now so someone must have done it after the fact.
I don’t particularly enjoy computer generated nudes, and I also don’t like if that content is not clearly labeled, but I don’t see what’s the big deal. If you have a reason to be browsing the web and art forums during your job hours in the first place, that’s not a big deal, just explain it. If you don’t, well, you should do like the rest of us and do that in secret no matter what content you browse. I have had an instance where plain porn advertisement jumped out when I was trying to download something where I shouldn’t be downloading it for work(which is way more embarrassing for me now) with a female coworker standing behind me and looking at my screen. I just said “Oh, wow, would you look at that.” and carried on and that was it. Nobody accused me of browsing porn at work because of that, because well, I wasn’t and wouldn’t and nobody even discussed it, because people know internet is internet. So might it be that either internet is internet, or you might probably be doing something that you shouldn’t be doing in the first place, and that’s the problem, not the nudes?..
Well for the first… you should not leave your workplace with this image open… and for the managers… if this is something at your work place then they should filter all incomeing content…
…and if this really D… …y… then they even can afford this…
If you see something that should be tagged but isn’t, flag it. If you’re worried about seeing nudes, don’t use BA at work, there are nudes here. I think that covers everything, no?
Can I be very clear, there were three red nsfw images not tagged this morning, so I fixed the problem, he has a point, there needs to be clear guidelines and maybe even some punishment for not flagging artwork as so, because there are people here who would be disturbed seeing nsfw content, so I feel there needs to be more strict guidelines on flagging content as so, because I feel this upset a fair few people this morning.
Point taken. Artsy people tend to think their way of thinking is both uniform and trumps all others, so…
Okay, so, there is part of the thinking that I am curious about.
A lot of people like art, and make art, and are supurb artists. Many of them also do not like having nekked boobies flashed at them on the regular.
And no one can seriously tell me it doesn’t happen. I’ve been a blenderhead here on BA since 2009. I’ve seen plenty of nudes here over the years.
So the response really just reads as a dismissive way of saying “well, this is an art forum, and we got nudes so maybe you should go prude somewhere else” — which indicates to me that BA isn’t the least bit interested in including everyone who wants to use Blender, just those that don’t mind having naked girls appear on a (if you want to be honest about it) not-infrequent basis.
I don’t. Sure is sad for those blenderheads that can’t just pop in on their lunch break to see how people are responding to their latest artwork, though.
At this point I think I have my primary question answered.
I have always expressed interest in BA as a welcoming forum (though I admit it has been a long time since I’ve actively participated). Unlike other <shall not be named> art sites, BA has typically been very good about not slipping into just another prön repository. I would like to think that is because my fellow blenderheads are more interested in actual art than just looking at nude girlies, but I think it also is because of a good policy that says be respectful and police yourself.
⟶ I am still curious about my core suggestion here: why not add a fairly obvious checkbox (or even a popup that must be responded to when posting) that brings the question to the front: “Is this NSFW?” Do you think it would make a difference?
Just creating a creature like Kailee means I’ve seen more of her very realistic body than any of you ever will, because that cannot really be avoided. I don’t feel the need to start making nudie pics of her to pass around, though.
We can’t force people to tag things correctly anymore than we can force people to be civil and constructive.
The staff here does not discuss enforcement decisions or policies publicly. If someone doesn’t follow rules, the staff takes care of it.
There are clear guidelines.
Then they shouldn’t be here, as this site has NSFW content.
I’d love to know what your definition of “not-infrequent” is. NSFW vs SFW is posted to this site at a ratio of about 1:900 last I checked. Since Feb 1st there have been a whopping 12 NSFW posts and several thousand SFW posts.
As I said, this site contains artistic nudity. If that’s not acceptable to someone, this site may not be for them. That policy is not up for debate.
Pornography, erotic nudity, or any non-artistic nudity is not allowed here. It never has been and never will be a porn repository- and if you find a statued bust of a woman’s torso pornographic, you may want to avoid art museums, Wikipedia, etc.
I mean no disrespect by saying this, but y’all are blowing this way out of proportion.
I once called several stripper clubs from work. It was my job to verify the work history of job applicants and do background checks for employers. An “exotic dancer” … so I called her previous employers. (I learned that they are usually self-employed and pay for stage time at “venues”.)
Once I checked a job application with a web address that lead to porn. After making sure I had no typo or misunderstanding I notified my supervisor. No problem.
I think there are many of us, who don’t like it(I mean in these specific circumstances and way! :D), but is this really such a huge deal? I don’t like advertisement, but I see it on Blenderartissts(not sure how they go through my adblockers :D, but I haven’t even tried to find a better way to block them), but is it a big problem?.. Why? Why can’t your wife see you looking at a CG picture of some naked character? Is it really such a big deal? Should it be? Why? Are those really good reasons? What’s wrong with just naked? I mean NSFW stuff that is way worse exists and can make most people feel uncomfortable, but if we are talking about the latest stuff in Artwork section… That’s fine…
I have had an instance where plain porn advertisement jumped out when I was trying to download something where I shouldn’t be downloading it for work(which is way more embarrassing for me now) with a female coworker standing behind me and looking at my screen. I just said “Oh, wow, would you look at that.” and carried on and that was it. Nobody accused me of browsing porn at work because of that, because well, I wasn’t and wouldn’t and nobody even discussed it, because people know internet is internet. So might it be that either internet is internet, or you might probably be doing something that you shouldn’t be doing in the first place, and that’s the problem, not the nudes?..
