I’m gunna try using no elecricity tommorow (at least as little as possible). No BA, no Blender, no nothing. I’m riding my bike to school, gonna be an eco-terrorist by turning off lights in school… WITH OR WITHOUT PERMISSION. Call me bad :evilgrin:
Teacher: “All right… any questions before we start the test?”
Me: “Uh, yeah… as you are aware it’s earth day… leaving these lights on is unacceptable…”
How can you believe in global warming if this year, Toronto and parts of New England and Wisconsin got record snow, southern China was so cold and snowey some cities were without power for weeks, and greater Vancouver (as of a news story today) got it’s latest snowfall on record?
Global Warming is quack, I’ll put up a huge smokestack and prove you all this is nothing but an excuse used by the government to increase and raise your taxes.
I refused a free pair of steel caps boots at work today as I already have a pair of my own and thought it will save the environment and manufacturing cost of one pair of replacement. I will get when someone breaks theirs, so the carbon emission of delivery of my pair of steel caps will be minimal.
If it says this, that’s what it’s about, it suggests melting of the polar ice caps but are you so sure?
One of the most dramatic results of the record cold over much of the planet is the reversal of the much-reported melt of the icebergs in the Arctic Ocean. Last autumn the world was alarmed to hear from certain climatologists that the ice in the Arctic had melted to its "lowest levels on record.” What was carefully omitted from those scare stories was the fact that those records only date back as far as 1972, and that there is anthropological and geological evidence of much greater melts in the past.
Now, as a result of the recent record cold weather, the ice is back. According to Gilles Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa, the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at this time last year.
What few people know and what the Global Warming lobby seems at pains to keep known is the fact that there is considerable seasonal variation in how much pack ice of the Arctic ice pack covers the Arctic Ocean. Much of the ocean is also covered in snow for about 10 months of the year. The maximum snow cover is in March or April — about 20 to 50 centimeters over the frozen ocean. The thickness is not one of the universal constants, never was.
I’m not trying to ruin the thread, it’s just based on this the Polar Bears have plenty of ice.
or mebbe he was talking about them crazy scientists that go out and kidnap polar bears so they can hook em up to treadmill/generators to make our electricity:yes:
yea that was it
There’s proof that Earth’s temperature is affected by sun activity, 1998 was very hot, but the sun was at an active solar maximum as well. The next cycle could be among the weakest in 100’s of years, so temperatures will go down, no problem, just rename global warming to climate change.
Nobody really knows!..Already the start of the new solar cycle, solar cycle 24 have been severely delayed. It should have started in January 2007, but it didn’t.
From the relationship between the Sun Spot Cycle length and the temperature, one can calculate that by each day the start of the next Solar Cycle is delayed, that that extra day’s delay corresponds to about 1.4 thousand of a degree centigrade cooling of the Earth’s climate.
With the appearance of the first sunspot of the next cycle in early 2008, this would cool the Earth by about 0.5 degree centigrade during the next Solar Cycle. This would be the case if this solar cycle would start at the same time as the first new sunspot of the new solar cycle appeared.
The problem is that this isn’t the case. We have to wait until we finally enter the new solar cycle when the activity from the new cycle is stronger than the previous one, which should take at least one additional year. This should cool the Earth by about 1 degree centigrade. With the current weak solar activity this could mean that it might take one year further. This would bring the extent of the delay of the new cycle to there year longer than normal. In either case we should expect the earth’s mean temperatures to drop to levels not seen since the Little Ice Age within the next solar cycle. What is happening right now signal a drastic shifts in the Earth’s climate and we will likely see dramatic drops in temperature the coming decades, starting in the next coming years
Uh Oh! May have to get the snow shovels ready earlier in the year:cool:
Well that article wasn’t any hard evidence. He who wrote it is an expert in the oil industry. No scientist what so ever. Just because it was colder in some places of the world doesn’t mean that that it just got colder. It’s natural that it gets colder. If you knew anything about the environment then you would know that but instead you push your stupid links to people who are so much smarter then you.
In Iran, following heavy snowfalls last month, its eastern desert regions - normally still hot at this time of year - have seen their first snow in living memory. In Saudi Arabia last month, people were amazed by the first snow most had ever seen
Snow in Iran’s deserts, snow in Saudi Arabia!!!:spin:
I think I’ll need the gloves sooner then years before.
Most of the coverage was on China’s snowstorms that covered most of the country, if you live in the U.S, you probably heard of the record snow up north. I’ve even seen on the news a snow flurry seen by U.S troops in Baghdad.
We could be going back into the little ice age (coldest part of it) at least for this century. Expect things to really warm up again if solar activity sees a great increase by 2098. Get those snow shovels and gloves ready.
EDIT: Oooooooh boy, I guess I’ll need those snow shovels, there now may be indication we really could be going into a new Ice Age. http://www.iceagenow.com/
One quick point I feel I need to mention: global warming is a misleading term. It should be called global climate change. Many experts think that global ‘warming’ could actually lead us into an ice age.
The point: weird climate. Our fault.
Edit: Cyborg Dragon, you beat me to the ice age point.
Back onto the real topic, it is good to save energy. Even if one believes that global warming is false, that doesn’t mean one shouldn’t save energy, does it?
Can’t argue with that.
Not to mention the food crisis that appears to be looming for the third world countries. My hat’s off to Mr President Bush for releasing $200m of aid for this cause. The food crisis puts the global credit crunch crisis into perspective. At least the ex-home owners are still majorly obese.
It would be nice if the Earth could just cool for the summer and stay the way it is for Winter. But apparently we’ll need to find fur coat sales in areas further south then usual.
And the sun.
No wonder temperatures are dropping year to year now, our Sun’s doing…nothing.
On the site it has a story saying the Russians had to abandon the Vostok base in Antarctica because of growing ice.
As the northern icecaps melt, (and they are - see below) more fresh water is dumped into the atlantic, and the gulf stream slows bringing an ice age to northern Europe. article from boston.com article from nasa today’s article from science daily
It’s called climate change. They stopped calling it global warming years ago. The effects will be far more complicated than mere warm weather.
Once again, CD, quit ruining the thread.
You are a dyed in the wool conservative who thinks he’s a dragon.
Anyone who believes what you say deserves what they get.