C4D modeling tools are not horrible, but they are slow. When using the tools they have to be constantly changed by moving the mouse and clicking in the Attributes making it slow. There is also the axis orientation system which is 20 years old and can take minutes to get in the right spot when modeling, but not accurately to the right spot. With the axis orientation system alone in C4D I would never touch it again for modeling. Not to mention the horrible snapping C4D has. Something I see they just got a little better with the Place Tool in S24. Still compare that to CAD Like Transform and we can see how far behind C4D is still. C4D also just got a Scatter Tool which Maya has had for what? 10 years? Then from a modeling sculpting workflow point of view no one can sculpt then retopo in C4D because there is no dynatopo, retopology, or good way of baking high poly to low at all. There is baking in C4D, but it sucks for getting high poly model to low poly model. Then I go to render in C4D and the viewport sucks as a representation in comparison to Eevee which is very close to final Cycles results saving me tons of time. When considering all that I don’t care about a slide tool that does something that Blender also does, but better in Blender because it’s spread over 3 tools with even more functions and keyboard shortcuts spread over them.
When I was using C4D way back in the day I couldn’t even use other programs with it because the fbx import was so horrible. You want to import something good luck. So I was suck making things slow with polygon modeling and slowly rendering with a cpu render engine. I cringe thinking about it. Sad thing is they are about the same now with a good fbx importer. So make everything in other programs and import to C4D so mograph can move things around. Render with Redshift.
It’s no wonder C4DCafe went under when the free program Blender is so vastly superior in every way, but mograph. In addition when 3DKiwi ran the cafe it was a fun place to hang. The new guy Kiwi gave it to made it a toxic place full of haters. The new guy also seemed to only care about money. With not enough money flowing into the Cafe he probably sold it to the casino. Just a guess.