Modelling lips

Hi, I have this character head Im quite happy with, but Im having trouble modelling the lips onto this mesh. does anyone have any suggestions?
Character picture:


Character file:
tare.fbx (93.9 KB)

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Im already familiar with this lip modelling method. The problem is, my character is already modelled, and its not very easy to put this topology onto it.

Guess what… you have to do some work… :

Just do it.

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hey I aint saying Im lazy. The main problem is the shading when I actually do the lips, it looks weird, and plus I’d preferably want to do it without applying the subdivision

Could you show an image of this? We could help you much better.

Man, I sent an image of the character and a file

Yes, but I mean, do you have one of the lips you tried making?

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Oh i doesn’t meant to sound harsh or something but if you are…

Then just keep on… :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: … i also have some un-nice features done in this sketch… but what’s the saying (?):

You have to start before you finish.

It doesnt really matter, the point is the character would end up having weird topology if I made all these lines on it