You’ve probably seen these elsewhere. But here you go.
Image:
http://faemalia.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Blender3dNovember&id=ViewToTheFuture2
.blend:
http://www.faemalia.net/Blender/ViewToTheFuture2.blend.gz
I’ve made lots of images, though, so you can see other “views” of this project at:
http://faemalia.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=BlenderRenders
I’ve also posted a lot of other .blends, you can find them here:
http://www.faemalia.net/Blender
Good luck, y’all.
:o yikes!
why you put children under the topic “erotic art”?
using nude kids is always a bit questionable I think, even on art photography, especially when kids start to be over 5 years old. but this is a whole another story. I knew all that manga couldn’t lead to anything good.
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Not this again.
Get an anatomy book. Look under the section labelled proportions of humans at various ages. Pay attention to it. Hint: your inability to guess proper age is due to the fact that my models have proportional (real-sized) breasts.
All that said, what would be wrong with depicting nude children? Going one step further, what would be wrong with depicting a completely artificial nude model that isn’t even based on reference works that has the same proportions of a child?
Prepare to back your position with facts.
your correctness in proportions have nothing to do with the fact that you present them as little girls. these characters are quite far from realistic characters, so the size of their breast doesn’t make them any older.
if you want them to be over 18, you need to do something about their face, and the whole setup of what they are doing in the scenes… make them behave like 18 year olds.
p.s. there is no such thing as real-sized breasts.
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I don’t think this thread should lead to such considerations.
Of course I’m against use of nude children, for porn activities, for examples, but it is time to stop swallow everything people usually accept as a fact without thinking.
Use of nude children in pictures or movies is wrong as long as the children aren’t agree or showed in a decadent vision or shocking vision of childhood.
there are nude children on beaches in movies, nude children in Renaissance art, angels are sometimes showed as little nude babies in churches and it doesn’t shock anyone.
It is time to think by yourself and consider that nudity isn’t obviously erotic or pornographic. Otherwise, greeks sculptors are all in porn industry!
As long as the picture isn’t showing acts that are unacceptable for children, there’s nothing wrong with nudity in art, even if it’s child, elder or adult person. Crazy people who masturbates in front of this kind of art are the dangerous persons…
In another hand, the models looks obviously teenagers, definitly above 16.
So this thread is only for you to express your mind about child explotation with nudity, which I’m against too. But you missed the target here.
artisticly, its very well made, pornographic its not.
Look basse, asian women always look a few years younger then they are…although after they reach a certain age it reverses 
If you dont want to see nudity, dont click the link. It was clearly labelled as containing nudity.
I don’t find these images offensive at all, and nor do they seem particularly child-like to me.
These are simply pieces of artwork, and some pretty nice modelling and posing too.
Even if Philip did choose to model a young subject for his figure studies, the sight of naked children does not actually turn you into a perverted baby-raping child molester.
Elysiun.com is a diverse, and international community, so please recognise that not everybody shares the narrow minded, and in my opinion, rather repugnant attitude you have to the display of the human body.
hmm. well then. fine.
I just said the first thing that came to my mind, just like I always do.
I have nothing against erotic art. but I just don’t like this particular direction we are seeing here. that’s all.
and to garbeger: heh… as me being from Finland, believe me, I’m used to people being naked. kids or adults. nothing strange in there. I mainly reacted to the word “erotic art” used in here, in this kind of a context.
anyways, that’s all. I stop before it gets out of hand. I’m sure there are lot of people in these forums that like this sort of “art”. I’m not one of them, don’t hold it against me.
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Not this again.
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Well, this critic has been mentioned for the 3rd time now within the very first posts of each of your threads/entries PhiloVivero.
First on http://www.blenderman.org
then on http://www.blender.org
and now here.
Get an anatomy book. Look under the section labelled proportions of humans at various ages. Pay attention to it. Hint: your inability to guess proper age is due to the fact that my models have proportional (real-sized) breasts.
Even if you are right with your proportion stuff then your models look like children. Sorry, PhiloVivero but it’s the people who decide what’s right or wrong not some scientific books. And people mentioned it several times now, that your models are great, but look way too young.
Furthermore try to suppress your superiority a little bit. I dont like your undertone here and i didnt like it at blenderman. If you are so 1337 in terms of human anatomy try to help and provide usefull links for people to support YOUR argument. Nobody will buy human anatomy books just because you told them.
(quote taken from blenderman)
I agree with basse.
Without discussing if one should depict nude childeren or not .
The looks are not only from proportion, they are also from context.
Not this again.
Get an anatomy book. Look under the section labelled proportions of humans at various ages. Pay attention to it. Hint: your inability to guess proper age is due to the fact that my models have proportional (real-sized) breasts.
All that said, what would be wrong with depicting nude children? Going one step further, what would be wrong with depicting a completely artificial nude model that isn’t even based on reference works that has the same proportions of a child?
Prepare to back your position with facts.[/quote]
PhiloVivero: This pretty much proves my points on the blender.org forums…whether or not your models are over the age of 18 or not is pretty moot at this point. People will interpret them as being under age – And please don’t go telling people to look at anatomy books…we have all seen what grown women look like.
Some reasons that people are assuming that these are kids:
Where are the hips? I was under the impression that women over a certain age have child bearing hips, but oh well…
The pubic hair is sparse…Im aware that your models are asian, but do asian women not have pubic hair as well?
If you are still convinced that these models portray real proportions, mosey on down to http://www.fineart.sk/ and take a look at what your average woman looks like.
On a side note, I think that the proportions displayed in your paintings is much more like it. I guess it all comes down to taste, but I for one will never look at these images as anything more than naked children…
From a technical viewpoint, I noticed that you have complained a bit about rendering output…but from where I stand it is because you seem to be using default raytraced lamps with very little thought for composition…the materials you used also leave a lot to be desired. If you spent as much time concentrating on lighting and texturing your work would be spectacular.
btw, do you have a photo of your models? Fully clothed, obviously 
Where are the hips? I was under the impression that women over a certain age have child bearing hips, but oh well…
We are… hmm, I mean… they are not all blessed with this. I’ve heard some women can’t bare more than 5 children cause they have small hips (so I’ve heard).
The pubic hair is sparse…Im aware that your models are asian, but do asian women not have pubic hair as well?
I believe lotsa Asian people don’t have hair under their armpits. And about the rest, they just got rid of their Bush (oops, capital-mistake)
now now basse are we jealous?
Madcow wrote
Some reasons that people are assuming that these are kids:
Where are the hips? I was under the impression that women over a certain age have child bearing hips, but oh well…
The pubic hair is sparse…Im aware that your models are asian, but do asian women not have pubic hair as well?
If you are still convinced that these models portray real proportions, mosey on down to http://www.fineart.sk/ and take a look at what your average woman looks like. [quote]
asian women are generally smaller, and thus, built very differently.
seriously, some women prefer to keep certain areas “clean”’and as far as the "average"women at fineart . YECH. most those women look like anything but average. :o
I am not attacking you, Madcow. but seriously…even if these models were depictions of young girls. where is the real problem ?
Hey Mr N…I know that you aren’t attacking me, so no worries there. I think that the problem comes from the fact that most nude and erotic art stems from desire. Some people choose to create hardcore pornography, whereas some people choose to portray women in a much more flattering and innocent light.
While I have no doubt that PhiloVivero belongs to the latter group, it still doesn’t change the fact that these models are not obviously women. If they were, I would have had a lot more people attacking my position on this. I also understand that some women choose to keep certain areas clean, but these girls don’t look shaved to me Nor do they seem to have the average amount of pubic hair for an adult woman.
The prospect of people looking at women that “could be” interpreted as very young with desire is something that leaves me very cold.
well, the lighting is nice…
Yeah, they are propably men dressed like cough cough underage girls.
C’mon people, Elysiun is not to dicuss your “erotic taste”. It’s to show your ART and get technical critics and comments.
I bet all these guys who against this one (think that naked kids are wrong) are the forum’s local perverts.
No offence.
Well, my technical critic is that he should not portrait asian woman of 18 years in a way that makes them look like 12 year olds for erotic pleasure.
This is not becuase of my taste or personal pervesatie, but because it’s against the law (for a good reason as a maater of fact).