problem with chair

Hi:
I´m modelling one chair, but the “chair back”, it´s so hard for me, the surface is not clean when i curve the plane.

i did it: (when i curve and extrude the plane, the result is really bad)


the chair what i wan´t modell


I don´t know what the best way for model this part of the chair.
I upload the blend file if you wan´t help. blend file

Thanks

Attachments

chair.zip (4.78 MB)

Well, the chair back, before bending and extruding, is not perfectly flat. You can flatten it by rotating it so it is aligned with the z axis in side view and the x axis in top view, then selecting all the verts and doing Scale>>Y>>Zero (S,y,0). Make sure the pivot point is set to median point before you do this. This will move all the verts along the y axis to a common plane.

Then you can bend the chair back with proportional editing and extrude a bit of depth to it without getting those nasty artifacts.

thanks orinoco, i try your tips (excuse for my english), i think it´s a little better:


Can you post a picture in edit mode of the upper part.

Looks like the topology isn’t right around the sides for a curved surface.

I’m not sure whether those are artifacts or reflections. What does it look like without the chrome material?

It looks like you may have some interior polygons in those trouble spots. Go to Edit Mode, turn on Face Select and turn off Limit Selection to Visible. Zoom in close on those areas where the chair back looks “funky” and see if you can spot any polygons inside the mesh. If you do, delete them. Then Recalculate Normals just to be sure.

i think it´s for chrome material, but ´m sure this not the best way for model this part of the chair.

¿what do you think about number and positions of faces???

blend file

I took a look and it’s definitely the topology.

You have way to many vertices and the topology isn’t right for curves.

thanks, i´m trying with a plane and subsurf, but i can´t curve well.

Too, with bezier circles, in 2D mode, perfect for make holes… , but how can i curve as i chair back? because in 3d mode, y can only see lines.

Attachments

TEST.blend (506 KB)

One solution is making a bunch of vertical slices through the geometry before bending. Yes it does add a lot more geometry, but the final result is what counts. Without the slices, the geometry will be forced too far out of planar and cause the artifacts you are seeing. This process will work on text as well.

@ajm: by “vertical slices” do you mean edge loops or are you talking about actually separating the mesh?

I am having trouble with that myself. The wiki says closing a 2d curve produces a renderable surface, but that does not seem to be happening on my system. Anyway, if you have the surface, you can modify the bezier circles by changing the control handles to “free” (Edit mode, Curve>>Control Points>>Set Handle Type>>Free) then you can make whatever shape you want by moving the end points around.

Once you get the shape, you can convert the bezier to mesh in object mode (Object>>Convert to>>Mesh from Curve). Of couse, if you don’t have that renderable surface, you’ll probably only get vertices for your mesh rather than faces.

to make faces with curve you have to select 2D in curve panel
then this will make faces on closed curves

happy bl

::Smacks forehead:: Duh!
Thanks RickyBlender :smiley:

thank you all.
Now I understand how to model these parts, I’ve been a big help for future furniture.

I saved the page on the computer :slight_smile: