thanks for the info. I tried removing doubles and I recalculated the normals but my render still looks the same. I figured it would have to be some sort fo render setting. I started playing around with any setting that I could and to my suprise, when I turned off the Shadows in the Render->Shading section, the issue went away. I wanted to know why so I started playing around with other settings. I am still not exactly sure that causes that but maybe something with the lighting?? After adding 2 more spots to the scene, now I can turn the shadows on and its ok. Oh well, I’ll keep playing and eventually I will find my shortcoming. Thanks for the great tips though. Those 2 will be in my regular arsenal going forward for sure.