two holes in a circle - topology question

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#1

Hey there guys. Been doing some exercises lately, and I wanted to cut two circles in a circle. Came up with this:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4766/circleholes.jpg

What do you guys think about the topology? Any ways to make it cleaner? It subsurfs well I think, but wanted your opinion. BTW, with the minimun faces possible

Edit:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7056/circleholes3.jpg

Came up with this. What do you guys think?

Edit 2:
What about four holes in a circle? Came up with this:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6315/circleholes4.jpg

However, i don’t like the 6 edge poles (and I don’t like them in the two holes case either). Opinion? Any ideas?

#2

The first one is much the best for subsurfing, since its the only one with good edge loops. If the surface is otherwise flat, 6-poles, tris or other oddities in the region between the edge loops won’t matter much. But here’s a version without any:

holes.jpg654×552 59.6 KB

Best wishes,
Matthew

#3

thx! But why aren’t the second image’s loops good edgeloops? What’s wrong then?

#4

Because they don’t have a circle loop around the circle.

#5

maybe this some better? http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/090926/10770/RInUWs8qLJ.jpg