nice speed up there. Monster machine.
Hi Everyone,
Iām new to the community, first time Post, so the Company I work for gave me a machine with a GTX 1060 6 GB and I have a few video projects Iām working on. It became apparent that there werenāt enough hours in the day (or night) to render all the frames to meet the deadlines. After watching CG geeks video on youtube we decided to order in a Radeon Pro Duo 32GB. Now the render time on the GTX 1060 averages at around 4 mins per frame. to my shock/horror/bewilderment the Pro Duo is taking 11 mins per frameā¦ as a trial I popped my personal GTX 750Ti in and got a 13ish minute resultā¦
one thing I noticed is that while rendering with the 1060 or 750Ti the system is pretty useless to do anything else, but the Pro Duo seems to render in the background and responsiveness isnāt effected at all.
are there some special settings I need to do when setting OPEN CL? to get the āalmost as fast as 2 1080ā times that CG geek got?
thanks
Paul
Bigger tile size is important. What do you have now? Try 320x270.
What version of blender so you use? Newer blender builds are much faster on nvidia than on amd.
not sure but IIRC > AMD likes full frame tile size & nvidia ~256x256 < this is tested 
PS
for quick presets activate Auto Tile Size addon
the other question is are you recompiling the kernel for every frame? as in, are you rendering via commandline, using the -a command?
With CUDA, the kernels are already compiled, whilst OpenCL compiles it on demand per blender instance (iirc). The comparison should be from the second frame rendered.
Is AMD calling it quits on Vega (the discrete market at least)?
If this is true, then Nvidia is very close to having a monopoly in this market (even though AMD continues to do okay in the lower end). Right now, it looks like Vega will mostly be a brand for scientific tasks and integrated graphics.
In a sense, it looks like the only choice right now for serious work is Nvidia (that being at least until AMD gets up to speed with their new multi-die GPUās with Navi, which should allow them to actually sell a high end card with a decent profit margin). By saying Nvidia is the only choice now for higher-end work, I mean thereās literally no alternative now in terms of something you can get.
Pretty sure the shortage is linked to the crypto mining performance on AMD cards (if you undervolt them, you can get pretty decent ROI)
Like doublebishop said, both AMD and Nvidia are making great amount of profit currently selling to cryptocurrency miners, so I really doubt that they are discontinuing any of their high-tier products.
Also cryptocurrency mining demand is very situational and spiky. AMD has been caught with their pants down previously where they had oversupply after the crypto market crashed. They donāt want to see it again.
The prices of GPUs are 2 times the price it should be. Itās like we need PCIe based cards that have a CPU installed instead of a GPU.
someone needs to make this, but I think access to ram is the slow part over pcie
Hi sorry if this was discussedā¦but is anyone here using Raven Ridge APUs with Blender? Just curious because I want to build a budget workstation with Ryzen 5 2400G and no graphics card. Itās very hard to find benchmark tests for modern APUs. Thanks for any feedback!
Just wanted to follow-up and see if you ended up getting the Vega and how it worked out? I am considering the same. I also do archviz and accessing system memory would be a great help. But is a card with HBCC needed for this? With OpenCL does it access system memory with any card?
Sorry for the late response. I actually did (before the cryptomining took over), bought a XFX Vega 56, and Iām really glad that I did it, HBCC works really well with blender/cycles, Iām able to render bigger/more complex scenes on GPU that otherwise I could only render on cpu. I think HBCC is needed for using system memory as vram for now, I searched for some alternative but didnāt find any. Rendering with vega have been very stable. Itās definitely an upgrade coming from a 580 8GB.
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Using system memory work on any OS with or without HBCC starting with Polaris, so Vega also works like that. HBCC only should make performance a bit better under windows 10, thatās all.
What should I buy:
2x1070 8GB
1x1080 8GB or maybe 11GB version
1xRX Vega 64 8GB
Currently Iām using GTX 970.
Iām considering Vega 64 but Iāve never had AMD GPU before.
Are there any special settings for Vega GPU - like ādebug mode 256ā or does it work out of the box like CUDA?
IMHO 1x1080 doesnāt make sense. Is only marginally faster than the 1070, but has the same amount of ram. I would go for the 2x1070 if you are more after speed, or for the 1080ti if you are concerned about ram. Canāt say about the vega, I donāt have experience with it.
Dual 1070, forget amd. I cant even render on the daily build.
Iād recommend AMD ATI Radeon graphic cards, they work so much better (especially in GNU/Linux).
Iām waiting on a MSI Laptop with Ryzen + Vega in my local Memory Express store myself.
I donāt know about you, but my system is pure GNU OS + Software. And UEFI is a āmini-OSā in itself -----> such that 2 of my laptops have been āfirmware-flashedā and damaged. But with BIOS the Hackers canāt touch my other non-UEFI, non-INTEL, non-Windows computers ( I use Puppy LInux version 7.0.8.5 ). :yes:
As most people are not constant target of CYBER ATTACKS, they do not know this. But in case you value your Computer System security, it is best to AVOID Intel + Nvidia. Intelās Management Engine (ME) if used along with UEFI + Windows 10, makes your system totally vulnerable to remote control (even if you power down your computer)ā¦
Some useful advice:
I do game programming on both BGE + Godot. I know some of you use the GPU to render using Cycles.
But hereās a little secretā¦ For my Animation Movies, I use Blender Internal to render. The speed + Quality is simply amazing. And your scene is not limited by GPU RAM.
Also, on my Windows 10 laptop with Nvidia 960M, I noticed Blender 2.8 EEVEE takes literally minutes++ just to load the demo files. And viewport viewing is not better than rendered view in either BI or Cycles.
Perhaps itās because itās a 960M, but my laptop is a Gaming Laptop, and I didnāt mess with pre-installed drivers.
That sounds like half-nonsense, can you please give a credible reference? Thereās some truth to vulnerabilities in ME, but thereās also vulnerabilities in the AMD equivalent of ME (āSecure Processorā). Linux isnāt going to protect you from that stuff.
If you really want to be āsafeā and run a pure FOSS workstation, you need to give up on x86 and get one of these.