Why don't they want us to make frosted glass or deep ocean materials anymore?!

Use the general roughness for the transmission and a “coat” for the shinny surface.

The coat has it’s own roughness setting to get a shinny surface on top of the rough one.

Cycles

For Eevee turn on screen-space refraction in render properteis and turn on refraction in the material settings.
Eevee

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