10-year C4D veteran moving to Blender

“Basically if you assign delete to delete and x to something else in Blender, you break the consistency. If you do that you better replace every shortcut in Blender until you feel rest. Otherwise something will always rub you the wrong way.”

I’m using the Blender keymap BTW not the Industry Compatible, just so we are on the same page.

I disagree with that statement. we are just talking about the delete function ,which are assign to X and Delete. Are there duplicated hotkeys within Blender beside the Delete? I can’t think of any, at least ones that are assign to different hotkeys like the Delete function. Local view uses “/” but its on the same keys just on both side. Even if they do exist, its a moot point because I’m only advocating for changing the Delete key so its more useful and should speed up modeling in Blender. Whether the Blender devs want to change other duplicated hotkey is another issue all together.

I bet you most people who use Blender will hit X instead of Delete, because X is right at your finger tips and Delete is way too the right. It’s like having 2 buttons in a car one next to the driver and one on the passenger seat that does the same thing, that’s not good design in any software. This is not about struggling to use a software, its about design, whether its good or bad.

I agree the Blender devs are smart and they know what they are doing but they are human and humans aren’t perfect, and humans change things base on feedback and logic, like Right click select to Left Click select. Even the GUI/UI elements during 2.8 development are constantly changing and they are logically sound changes.

The solution is keep X as the delete pop up menu(because most people are used to this). Delete hotkey(which no one uses to delete) should delete whatever is selected. This can be a user preference , I’d gladly turn this ON.

Actually is there a Add-on that I can assign to the Delete key that would just delete whatever is selected. It would be useful.

Speaking of Addon, I gotta give Modo-Me another try,need to reinstall it.

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Can you not assign that in the key map editor?

I don’t even know how to do that, can you show me? I thought we need to write script, which is out of my league at the moment. I see the Delete key in the keymap editor but its not obvious how to change it to what I want.

This should work?

Hmm… I can see no way to get rid of the menu, though, that pops up in edit mode where you have to enter whether to delete vertices, edges, faces…

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I also prefer to invoke the delete and dissolve commands separately without calling the menu, depending on the type of selection. My keymap: X - delete, Ctrl+X - dissolve, Ctrl+Shift+X - Delete Menu. For me, this is a much faster way to work, as you do not have to stop and peer at the menu items. Fortunately, Blender has rather flexible settings and a large number of add-ons that could change some aspects to your preferences. I advise you to take a look at these two add-ons:


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Half of the threat about a single key mapping? Well, first thing I did in C4D was remapping, still the software has so many quirks I hate to use it. Never understood I need a tool to select something, should be default. Or the properties, that lake a quarter of the screen and give almost no information.
I think you are a lot quicker learning Blender when you start with industry standard keymaps and the adjust them to your preference. By time people will add setups mimic a certain software as close as possible.
I have been through ever 3d software and I think Blenders advantage is that it can adjust to your needs easily. Flexibility is important. Advantage on the Mac is you have one more modifier key that you actually can map easily. I have the mightiest cmd key ever.
Anyway I‘m not sure if any professional ever switched completely to Blender, its still not a complete tool, especially Particles need a complete overhaul and the render is having a lot quirks and difficult to use shaders that still need a lot more care to solve each issue. Standard Blender shaders have lot nodes and you loose yourself there. So better wait, till Redshift comes.
And never do a complete switch. It took me 3 years till I finally deinstalled 3dsmax 2008. And I only find it sad to have lost so many plugins, says a lot I guess.

You can literally make the GUI like C4D to some extend given enough time and effort. At least this is one true power Blender has in comparison to other software. I don’t exactly if other software allow you to create your own GUI modifications but at least in Blender is provided out of the box and everything is setup like this inviting you to hack and change everything.

True, but that only happens since 2.8. So before it was a nightmare. What Blender still misses is a quicker way to import data from other software like goZ does. Or for the veterans a way to change Z and Y axis, in the end it’s just a single letter.

But you don’t have to peer at the menu items. . You can press the shortcut combos (for example xf) faster than it takes the menu to appear.

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I get your points but my point was that the way delete (via the menu) is handled was a design decision comes from back then. There are some reasons for it in my opinion. Because deleting something in Blender is not as clear cut in component mode . For instance you can delete all the faces in a mesh but still keep the edges (this is meaningless in some apps), which is why there are multiple delete looking things in that menu.

In any case I get what everyone is saying about these kind of situations. I remapped crap loads of functions in Blender back then too. Remapping is very easy in Blender so I recommend start practicing it. Open a menu and right click on the function you want a special key for and click on “Assign Shortcut” You wont need the keymapper tab in most cases.

Actually is there a Add-on that I can assign to the Delete key that would just delete whatever is selected. It would be useful.

Having a context sensitive delete would be an add-on for sure. I guess not hard to make one. There is slight complication, when you have all there components enabled and you press delete, then what happens? The answer sounds to be easy, but for most oldie Blenders, there could be many interpretations of it.

Speaking of Addon, I gotta give Modo-Me another try,need to reinstall it.

Please get the latest version, and let me know how it goes.

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There is a checkbox inside the settings. Disable it.
@Son

But not in edit mode.

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Oh, I didn’t know that, thanks. Then why are there no labels in the right menu item, as in other menus? This is not bad, but in that case I think it would be more convenient to change X -> V, E, F to X -> 1,2,3. Less finger gymnastics. :slight_smile:

All Blender menus can be shortcutted by pressing the underlined letter.
It is usually the first letter in the word but if this letter is allready taken the the next letter is used.
In case of the delete menu You can see that the “o” is underlined in “only edges and faces”
The next one is “only faces”. The “o” is allready taken so it is shorcutted with “n”.
Same for the following “Dissolve” options.

The same way you could press ws for subdivide, because “w” calls the special menu and within the special menu “s” is “subdivide”.

As for 1,2,3 being less finger gymnastics I can not see how that would be true.
With a normal 10 finger positon (left hand index finger on “F”) you press v with the index finger and x with the ringfinger. f for face with the index finger and e for edge with the middle finger.

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Having a context sensitive delete would be an add-on for sure. I guess not hard to make one. There is slight complication, when you have all there components enabled and you press delete , then what happens? The answer sounds to be easy, but for most oldie Blenders, there could be many interpretations of it.

That’s a bit of a edge case but in that scenario it would delete whatever is selected,however most people would not use this context sensitive delete in that situation , as it would destroy their mesh.

Definitely something that needs to scripted and applied to the Delete hotkey, can’t seem to do with the keymap editor alone. I’m almost tempted to learn Blender scripting it doesn’t seem that hard.

I try not to remap any hotkeys, just to learn the default one as its kinda fun, it also makes following tutorials easier. The context sensitive delete key is something I really want though.

BlockquoteF to X -> 1,2,3. Less finger gymnastics. :slight_smile:

It might be more finger gymanstics since 1,2,3 are further up compare to F,V,E relative to the X key

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Am I the only one who puts her left hand at the WASD keys like a real gamer? :grin:
The thumb is next to Alt and X, so that the keys 1, 2, 3 are easily pressed with the middle finger and the little finger on Shift and Ctrl. I never tried the position of the fingers you described and to be honest, I do not see any particular advantages for that.

Wow! This is a discovery for me. Thank you very much for the information, my life will never be the same again!

Despite my elementary and middle school teachers trying to imprint that on me during typing class, I never found that position comfortable from my perspective and instead choose to go completely free-form. That doesn’t mean I can handle completely illogical control schemes though.

It’s like the unique way I hold a pencil or a pen, the “correct” position never felt great and I can’t write well that way.

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That is standard 10 finger typing position. The index finger is on the F key, which has this little stub on it making it easy to find without looking. This position lets you blindly reach all keys of the left part of the keyboard. That is 33 keys with one hand without removing your eyes from the screen.

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Out of curiosity, can you type blind with this free-form?